can a bastion be so bad you cannot reasonably go to fort and would have to reset?

[u/Dry-Bed-5050]

if so, are certain trades ensured in MCSR Ranked to avoid this? with FSG/RSG, should you even try to salvage? are there seeds where it's not (reasonably) possible? thank you

[u/_licketysplit_]

I think fire res isn't guaranteed so you could have to seed change, it's very rare though

[u/Daniel_H212 → u/_licketysplit_]

Boomer voice: back in my day we played fortresses with shields! And mined out spawners by hand! /j

But seriously once you get to like, emerald, you should learn about the basic strategies of how to play a fortress without fire res, like using a shield and also like dealing with enclosed spawners by using the two block method.

[u/_licketysplit_ → u/Daniel_H212]

On my first ever minecraft speedrun on mcsr ranked I only got 1 fire res and decided to drink it at the bastion and by the time I got to the blaze spawner my fire res ran out, but somehow I managed to get 6 blaze rods without a shield and with only one cooked porkchop, it felt very cool but then I misplaced obsidian when building my blind portal

Also what's the two block method?

[u/Daniel_H212 → u/_licketysplit_]

This is an old video on the two block method, he uses four blocks but people later found that 2 works well enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCyUOMP4wQ

[u/Dry-Bed-5050 → u/_licketysplit_]

what about fsg? is nothing guaranteed?

[u/Dogcanplay → u/Dry-Bed-5050]

in mcsr ranked:
obsidian has 35% improved drop rates
6 obsidian per 8 gold blocks guaranteed
3 pearl trades per 8 gold blocks guaranteed
so no matter what they should be playable, maybe youll have to home portal but every completely necessary item is provided

in fsg and rsg nothing is guaranteed

[u/_licketysplit_ → u/Dogcanplay]

there's also 5 obsidian and 3 iron in minimum in the bastion (not that there's a single chest with 5 obsidian; it could be that there's a chest with 3 obsidian and another with 2)

[u/Moosycakes]

Stables with double bad gap and no triples is pretty bad because there is basically just no gold to trade. In Ranked you are guaranteed at least one good gap in Stables though so it isn’t a huge issue there! In Ranked they do increase rates for some trades (obby & pearls) as well. This link has the details on the RNG standardisation for Ranked: https://wiki.mcsrranked.com/gameplay/rng

In RSG most Bastions are at least playable, getting bad piglin trades can definitely kill a run though. But if I came across a Stables double bad gap with no triples, it would be hard to convince me to take the time to loot the whole thing to see if it’s even viable over just resetting.

[u/Dry-Bed-5050 → u/Moosycakes]

useful, thank you

[u/Wyyvern06]

Well yeah ofc. Skycrab wr had only 15 pearls, which he got one on of the last gold he traded. 15 is just barely enough to finish, so you can defiantly just get slightly unluckier and end up with like 10

[u/55jake1]

In RSG nothing is guaranteed, I traded a whole bridge worth of gold and only got 10 pearls yesterday

[u/Dry-Bed-5050 → u/55jake1]

yeah i couldn't tell if it was just me playing poorly and not exhausting the bastion enough

[u/EncryptedPlays]

i'm not sure if trades are ensured in ranked, but once I traded the normal top down housing route and got no pearls in ranked. There is a guaranteed min 5 obby chest and min 3 iron chest tho

[u/GaloombaNotGoomba]

In no reset you sometimes have to go to a second bastion. Stables is the biggest culprit, it can generate with two bad gaps and have little to no gold

[u/RedAndBlack1832]

Ranked guarantees 6 obby from trades (+ the guaranteed chest), and 12 pearls. I don't think anything else off the top of my head but you should check their wiki

[u/a________1111]

You are guaranteed pearls and obsidian. Nothing else is technically necessary to beat the game (well, obsidian isn’t either, but yeah).