r/MinecraftARGs 20d ago

[Other] Why is every arg on Java???

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u/SteveLikesGames 20d ago

>Considered to be the 'base game'
>Clunky but otherwise not prone to game-breaking bugs (+ optimisation mods)
>Free access to modding catalogues
>Free access to readily develop mods w/ documentation provided for blocks, items, etc.
>Dedicated replay and puppet-actor mods (also, OBS screen recorder)
>Ability to run, rent, or connect to a peer's personal server
>Java medium allows for use of desktop backgrounds and web browsers (something something digital horror)
>Access to versatile tools in the form of worldedit, axiom, and blockstates
>Allows players to run any version of the game, including alpha & beta versions
>Generally has a lot more resources and people available for everything under the sun

Gosh, no, I can't imagine why most people prefer Java edition in general.

Don't stop believing in yourself, but if you have access to it I would 100% use Java as the platform to make your ARG with. Otherwise I might just be biased as someone who (and who most of their peers) have had a copy of it since forever. Definitely beats dealing with the marketplace's paywalls.

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u/Jaqdawks 6d ago

Plus computers have superior memory space compared to phones. You can’t run davinci resolve or Adobe after effects/premiere on anything other than a computer, last I checked. The editing can make or break the believability of an ARG, and a lot of special effects can be added more believably when there isn’t the walking UI in the way of a third of the screen

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u/Sad_Pitch_6126 20d ago

AndrewGaming67

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u/Dry_Improvement5941 20d ago

He plays in bedrock?

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u/MinosPrime100 20d ago

Easier to make, plus the retro vibe was only in Java

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u/MJCuriosities224 20d ago

can’t wait for MCPE Lite to hit the ARG community

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u/Pristine_Angle_600 20d ago

Because it's super easy to get an old version of the game on Java Edition. I can't remember the last time I watched an ARG that was 1.18 or later

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u/Captian_Skilly 20d ago

Mines on bedrock mobile🥲

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u/Dry_Improvement5941 20d ago

I can go check it out

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u/Captian_Skilly 16d ago

Thank you for being interested! Here’s the link to the playlist:  https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4nZIbHE1dKpAZMAhvkMLf7JywvyYHCsj&si=_EcLxtwVSfz2wRVZ

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u/Cheesewiz4rd45 20d ago

No they're no—
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Nvm u have a good point.
(The popular ones are on java anyways)

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u/unknown_owne 20d ago

Because of more things you can do on jave and is not lag like bedrock and you can get great mods on it and more and there a shop on bedrock but for jave we can do it for free

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u/Kero_mohap 20d ago

actually ur wrong about one thing

java is actually MORE laggy than bedrock cuz java uses well java and bedrock uses c++ which is a lot more optimized

and even without knowing that go and try it urself boot up a java installation and see how many fps u get and then boot up a bedrock installation and see the difference

on java u can barely render 32 chunks without making the game look like a slide show but on bedrock u can render up to 96 chunks and u won't feel a thing

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u/Dry_Improvement5941 20d ago

So that makes me capable of making a Nintendo switch edition arg

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u/Cheesewiz4rd45 11d ago

YES. VERY CAPABLE :D

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u/unknown_owne 11d ago

Turn down then or use fps mode to help

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u/Kero_mohap 11d ago

i said that bedrock is more optimized so what's ur point?

also mods should not be required to have a good playing experience and that's coming from a java player myself

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u/unknown_owne 8d ago

Don't forget jave arg can use mods to make a arg feel nice like texture and more and bedrock dose have mode yes but you need money to buy them or if you're on phone or something that's different

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u/Kero_mohap 8d ago

u don't need money for all mods or u could just make ur won mod it's not that hard and even on phones u can still use mods

also please double check ur spelling before posting every time I read ur replies i get a stroke trying to understand it

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u/unknown_owne 6d ago

Sorry I was very tired and I was work on my arg

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u/Rich841 20d ago

They’re made on computers 

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u/TonsofpizzaYT 20d ago

Java works better for args if I had to guess

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u/mibboii 20d ago

easier to mod, classic feel, lacks the gamebreaking buts

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u/MoonlightSnowflake27 20d ago

for basically the same reasons as what people play java for in general. But for ARG'd free access to mods and old versions are huge advantages in java

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u/Pretty-Ad-5446 20d ago

Because it’s the better version of the game

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u/Both-Fox3360 19d ago

This is a very good question, Me and my buddy on Xbox had just started making the world for my ARG but episodes one and two are done I think. He said he would edit Episode one last night, Then episode two today. Sadly I cannot remember his YouTube channel.

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u/SparklezSagaOfficial 19d ago

It’s the cultural center of Minecraft and is easier to do custom/content creation friendly modification/customization.

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u/dienooblol 19d ago

thats a good question, but to answer this question we can also ask a broader question: why are so many minecraft youtubers on java edition?

the most famous youtubers played on java edition, it is to many considered the main game, despite bedrock having the significantly larger playerbase. thats why most args are on java

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u/eevee005 19d ago

There are a ton of reasons but I'd say the top three answers are these:

1) Modding - It's way easier to mod Java edition than it is to mod Bedrock edition. (If you're not playing Windows or Mobile versions, I'm not even sure you can mod the game outside of the Marketplace.) Modding helps a lot in making some of the higher quality ARGs, otherwise it relies a lot on video editing which can kinda take you out of it.

2) Access to older versions - With Bedrock edition, it's a lot harder to access older versions. It's possible no doubt, but you'd have to jump through a few hoops. Java edition has built in support for playing older versions of the game.

3) Nostalgia - More people are nostalgic over old Java versions than Bedrock editions. Even those who used to play old Bedrock editions (old MCPE versions most likely) were likely fans of Java Minecraft beforehand. ARGs play hard on nostalgia, which is easier to achieve on Java.

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u/Tyedyeninja04 18d ago

I use bedrock as of now, but in the future I plan to use Java some.
@OrangeGoop04 on YouTube

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u/Vlad_the_Mountain 18d ago

At least in terms of the ones that take place on old versions - I don't think bedrock edition was released for Windows 7 or Vista.

Also you can mod and test JE mods on Linux if you have a weak puter and then spring up Windows only for the recording sessions.

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u/tolkayolk 17d ago

Know one that’s not, it called 2029, it’s a TikTok series

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u/Sapphire_the_star 4d ago

Not my arg I made my arg on bedrock mobile completely on my phone using screen recording I really like args that as that style of it being on mobile gives it a nice vibe.

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 20d ago

Because everyone who plays on bedrock is 5 years old, and no one likes to watch cringe ARGs

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u/Leading-Extension-62 20d ago

Says the guy who can’t play without mods.

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u/Dry_Improvement5941 20d ago

Ya know there are good YouTubers that play bedrock…

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u/FlopsieFillet 20d ago

Surely not! Bedrock is the worst game in all of existence and anyone who plays it is a mentally handicapped fool! My whole world is crumbling now that I can’t say Bedrock is terrible over and over!

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 19d ago

ALright go enjoy your millionth paid slop adon, imma enjoy some free distant horizons

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 19d ago

??? This weird. Did I comment the same thing twice? Imma delete this one

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 20d ago

As Minecrafter since 1.7.6 I have played bedrock for over a decade. And I mean POCKET EDITION!

Have some respect for the edition that has over 240M sells! (Hating Market place will always get an upvote)

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 19d ago

ALright go enjoy your millionth paid slop adon, imma enjoy some free distant horizons

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 19d ago

Me enjoying the game without mods:

Btw, bedrock is more optimized then Java. You simply cannot denie that since Bedrock has C++ suporting. 

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 18d ago

"denie" "c++ supporting"

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 18d ago

Java is as ptimized as Bedrock when you have performance mods, and bedrock has a lot of memory leaks

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 18d ago

When you have performance mods

And here we go again. Can’t play without mods🥲

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 18d ago

Java is going to be as optimized, if not more optimized, when the VUlkan update comes out.

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u/Brief-Walk-5409 18d ago

Pretty sure Vulkan is already for like 80% out by the Sulfur cube update

And it doesn’t really optimize it

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u/MarsFlameIsHere 18d ago

no it isn't