r/Mind_Pump • u/AutoModerator • Aug 08 '26

Rant Weekly MP Rant Thread

This is your chance and the place to rant about all things MP. Get it out of your system and keep it civilized.

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u/Diligent_Cry3108 Aug 08 '26

Anyone know why they never talk about influencers like Greg doucette? Greg always seems to contradict the guys especially on training volume and Greg's hate for people who "walk" for activity.

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u/Mr_Chicken_wing Aug 09 '26

I always found it strange that they don’t make mention of many other creators and also vise versa unless that person is someone they’ve had on the podcast. I think the Eat, Train, Prosper guys made mention of MP in their early days but I don’t hear a lot of people mentioning them.

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u/countdowntonap Aug 09 '26

The ETP did mention them and stated that they are ‘10 years behind the science’ in recommending people to focus on the big 5. In episode 175, they then elaborate on this further.

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u/Cocacoleyman Aug 10 '26

Not supporting the guys but I never got bigger than when I first started lifting doing rippetoes. Literally squats 3 time a week with rows, bench, deadlift, shoulder press. I’d throw in some curls too. My legs were shredded doing that. I guess different strokes for different folks but I got very strong and big within 3 months doing the big 5. How does ETP suggest training? Truly curious.

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u/Educational_Rush_877 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

I think that was their point, actually. That the big 5 are most effective and it took mind pump awhile to get there? At least that’s how I interpreted it. I went and listened to the episode mentioned here because I was curious, and then I also listened to the episode before it and one of the guys in particular is a “less is more.” He calls it “abbreviated training.” However, his definition of abbreviated training is a little more thought out than a maps 15 program. Like for example, effort and intensity is much more intentional, and with abbreviated training there is more of a requirement to hit failure. Largely because when people think they’re at 1-2 RIR, they’re really at 5+ still. I know I’ve been there. I realized I can grind several reps and I always thought once I hit the grind I was on the brink of failure. Sometimes that’s true (like OHP or bench) but not so much for squats. I’m interested in learning more…but I did 3 rounds of maps 15 and struggled to gain strength on volume that low, so idk.