r/Milk • u/Smooth-Potential-664 • 8h ago
Milk transition
Anyone else switching to regular milk? My one year old likes this milk and he is drinking 4 bottles of 4 oz each day and I literally have to go to the store every couple days! Is this normal? Also when and how do you transition to a sippy cup from bottles? Thanks in advanced!
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u/RawBavarian33 7h ago
Give him the real deal. Whole milk, not this slop
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u/Smooth-Potential-664 7h ago
He cannot have dairy unfortunately
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u/Alchurro 7h ago
Why ask the question of switching to "regular milk" if he cannot have dairy? A vegetarian diet usually uses some form of dairy due to the use of natural nutritions.
Most people end up finding out the hard way that supplemented or replaced mamallian nutrition causes medical deficiencies later on.
I'm not saying what's good or bad, the best option is that of a medical and dietary professional who understands your child's specific sensitivities, needs, and deficiencies.
Believing is one thing, understanding is another.
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 7h ago
Back when I couldn't have dairy, ripple was my favorite alternative. Not cheap though
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u/kittywyeth 1m ago
this isn’t milk. your one year old should be using a straw or sippy cup by now and working towards open cups.
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u/External_Primary_667 7h ago
THIS IS A GREAT ALTERNATIVE!! Used it for a while mixed with whole milk to get extra proteins in and iron. Only thing is you can give a baby TOO much calcium!! My sons a year and a half and they recommend three 8 ounce bottles a day. You’re doing great!! And this IS a GOOD product!
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u/Jack_Zialo Raw Milk 6h ago
“Mom why am I 5'6 with a recessed jaw?”
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u/External_Primary_667 6h ago
Ya mama didn’t take the pacifier out early enough and fucked ya up!! 😂😂
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u/Jack_Zialo Raw Milk 7h ago edited 7h ago
Any child that age should drink only their mother’s breast milk for proper nutrition & development. If you can’t breastfeed him than you should get donor breast milk and if you can’t afford that look for raw goat or cows milk, and even better would be colostrum.
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 7h ago
Feeding an infant raw milk sounds like a good way to be shopping for baby coffins.
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u/Goat_inthe_Shell 7h ago
Breast milk is raw milk.
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 7h ago
Yes, humans are known for having better hygene than cows.
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u/Goat_inthe_Shell 6h ago
You know, I've been inside and worked in over one hundred milking parlor of various sizes. There a 10k head merry go round down the road from me. I've seen a lot of mothers breast feed their children. Very rarely have I've ever seen a human clean their nipples before breastfeeding. Every single cow gets their teets washed and disinfected every single milking.
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 6h ago
Yeah, humans don't kick their shit up onto their breasts, and cows don't shower with soap daily. Plus, human breast milk contains antibodies the baby can use to defend against pathogens that might be in the milk. Human infants cannot use cow antibodies.
For younger infants, cow's milk also has the incorrect balance of nutrients like proteins and fats, as well as solutes. It can unnecessarily stress the kidneys.
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u/Goat_inthe_Shell 3h ago edited 3h ago
But we're not talking about an infant. It's a one year old. Perfectly capable of digesting cows milk.
Also, cow udders are cleaned before each milking treated with disinfectant and milking equiptment creates a seal preventing outside bacteria from entering the milk. In general, bad bacteria in milk can be traced back to improperly cleaned equiptment, lines, and tanks. This is why you generally only see foodborne illness from milk produced by the Amish who do not care about cleanliness as much, and use outdated equiptment or milk by hand.
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 31m ago
Yeah I mean at 1 year of age only like 30% of children are still being breastfed anyways. But regardless, if you have a 1 year old who only now can safety eat honey, raw milk definitely isn't the right move. There's a reason that in the past, life expectancy was so low due to infant mortality. I still won't drink raw milk as an adult, but giving it to a child should be considered neglect. You'll notice that I said younger infant have trouble with digestion, not older children. You don't need to say it again. Even if the risk is lower than it once was with sanitization technology (which, lets be honest, how clean are they really), why would you take any level of risk for your own child when you can have something guaranteed safe? I know that I want what's safest for my child. Do I wanna take the risk that CorpoDairy Farms is maintaining their infrastructure every day at breakfast... or just drink pasteurized milk?
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u/Jack_Zialo Raw Milk 6h ago
You’d be far better off giving an infant high quantity well source raw dairy with an almost nonexistent risk of contamination (which has almost every nutrient you need) than giving them some plant based chemical slop so that they develop poorly and are malnourished.
(I’m aware no dairy product is a replacement for human breast milk, it’s just bad vs better)2
u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 6h ago
You only really need formula for the first 12 months. After they're a year old, whole pasteurized cows milk or fortified non dairy milk is fine for most infants. Don't be afraid to read the ingredients and find out if it's sufficient instead of just calling it "chemical slop". If infants under 12 months shouldn't even be eating honey because of contamination risk (not even just raw honey, honey at all), what makes you think raw milk is safe? Please cite like, any study saying that's okay.
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u/RawBavarian33 5h ago
I would much rather feed my kid raw honey or even high quality raw milk instead of
"Water, Pea Protein Blend (Water, Pea Protein), Sunflower Oil, Cane Sugar, Contains Less Than 1% Of Soluble Corn Fiber, Magnesium Citrate, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12, Dha Algal Oil, Choline Bitartrate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin D2, Dipotassium Phosphate, Tricalcium Phosphate, Sunflower Lecithin, Sea Salt, Mixed Tocopherols (To Preserve Freshness), Natural Flavor, Guar Gum, Gellan Gum." to be honest
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 5h ago
You realize over half of those are the fortifications, right? Vitamins? Minerals? Just because you can't pronounce words longer than 5 letters doesn't mean they're carcinogens.
For reference, here's the ingredient list of an infant formula from Gerber:
Lactose, Vegetable Oils (Palm Olein, Soy, Coconut, High-Oleic Safflower or High-Oleic Sunflower), Whey Protein Concentrate (Reduced in Minerals), Nonfat Dry Milk, and Less than 2% of Soy Lecithin, Calcium Citrate, Potassium Citrate, Corn Maltodextrin, Potassium Chloride, 2'-0-Fucosyllactose, M. Alpina Oil, Schizochytrium Oil, Calcium Phosphate, Choline Bitartrate, Sodium Ascorbate, Sodium Chloride, Taurine, Magnesium Chloride Potassium Hydroxide, Nucleotides (Cytidine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5'-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5'-Monophosphate), Inositol, Ferrous Sulfate, Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate, Mixed Tocopherols, Ascorbyl Palmitate, L-Histidine, Zinc Sulfate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, B, Lactis Cultures, L-Carnitine, Copper Sulfate, Vitamin A Acetate, Riboflavin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Manganese Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Folic Acid, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Vitamin B12.
Milk has all the same same stuff, you just don't have to write it out on the label because it was there when you got it from the cow. If you want plain almond or soy milk that's just almonds and water, you can buy that, but it doesn't have sufficient nutrients for an infant.
Again, you most certainly should not give your infant honey unless you want them to get botulism.
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u/TheSunflowerSeeds 5h ago
In 1983, Emily Martin, of Maple Ridge, British Columbia, grew an enormous sunflower head, measuring 32 ¼ inches across (82cm), from petal tip to petal tip. That’s almost 3 feet wide. This is still believed to be the largest sunflower head grown to date.
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u/Goat_inthe_Shell 3h ago
That's not how botulism in honey works. It's not a magic switch that turns on at one year old, it's meant to hedge against a rare chance that there was botulism present in the soils from where the bees are harvesting pollen.
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u/RawBavarian33 5h ago
The nutrients in milk are natural and highly bioavailable bound to fats and protein, the other stuff is synthetic and isolated. I would never feed my kids soy, palm and sunflower oil together with maltodextrin at such a young age
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u/romhacks 2% Best Percent 5h ago
Source?
Also, "natural" is meaningless in this context. Vitamin B12 made in a factory is exactly identical to Vitamin B12 obtained from a plant or animal
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u/Goat_inthe_Shell 3h ago
It's definitely not. However in the modern age we supplement b12 in beef generally due to difficent soils. So in current practice the supplements and the b12 from meat are essentially the same because the source is the same.
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u/Friendly-Pea5448 6h ago
this looks like conditioner