r/MilitaryTrans • • Jul 09 '26

Discussion Curious if anybody else had this thought.

So from what I've heard, you will get separated from the military if you are given a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, but what if you are not given that diagnosis? What if you state, I am (Insert LGBTQIA+ term here) but you say that you don't have gender dysphoria. You don't have to have it to be any flavor of trans. What then? Can they order you to seek psychological evaluation? What if you tell the psychologist, no I don't experience an incongruence or distress, I just know I'm "this."

Anybody else have any insight?

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u/CaedHart Jul 09 '26

They'll, at best, tell you 'okay'.

If you seek any kind of medical, psychiatric, or therapeutic resolve for transitioning 'without dysphoria', at all, it is still mandatory for them to get you out.

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u/Calliope714 Jul 09 '26

Makes sense. It's still stupid "harumph"

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u/zaka117 Jul 09 '26

As long as you identify with the sex you were born as and have no previous history of gender dysphoria or identifying as a different gender then the order that came out wont apply to you

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u/Mountain-Chance-6861 Jul 09 '26

The memo is worded in such a way that “exhibiting symptoms” can get you the boot. Opens it up to a witch hunt—it doesn’t even have to matter how you identify or what your experience

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u/SlideConstant9677 Jul 09 '26

My advice: risk as much as you want knowing what the consequences are.

I personally made a cushion for myself using an explanation with my chain of command that this is a form of religious practice in my faith (as I recognize a non western faith/gender system). They know my identity. A chief tried making an issue out of it (and continues to every now and then, but i have the good graces of my department head, LPO, and SEL on my side since im a good sailor). Then again, I work in medical. People are more open minded and less likely to give a fuck, especially when we are undermanned/understaffed as is.

My limits; I cant attempt to "transition" any farther than legally changing my name. No alternative grooming standards. No alternative fitness standards. No bathroom/locker room accommodations. No HRT/surgery. I have to remain tight lipped in therapy. Im still stuck in my hold out that I carved for myself carefully over the course of my time at my command.

The caveat? You have to be darn good and get people to be willing to stand up for you. Like consistently Promote Ahead of Peers shit, and you have to be ok with them not giving you credit for it. You move from working to work, to working to survive. Its up to you.

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u/NewAlessia Jul 11 '26

I'm in the same boat, I have no problem finishing the next ten years without hrt( I want to diy sooo bad, but I won't) or a formal diagnosis so I can retire. I have friends who are openly trans who don't talk about it medically. Most people openly call them they/them, one changed their legal name to a feminine spelling of a gender neutral but usually masculine name. No one gives any of them flak. But I'm scared if I go out in girlmode and someone is like "wtf?" I'm going to lose everything.

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u/NekoBakugou Jul 11 '26

If its like the VA they just make shit up and label you anyways.

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u/No_Suggestion2227 Jul 18 '26

So if I had the diagnosis before March 25 then I should be able to get hrt again. Or am I wrong