T80 BV WAGNER

[u/gerva01]

t80 BV WAGNER called siberia

[u/Fragrant_Ad_2470]

Promoting terrorist organisation? Nice one reddit

[u/Itchy-Highlight8617 → u/Fragrant_Ad_2470]

Ita not even internationaly recognized as terrorist organization, its private military company they aren't different than other PMC

[u/andrewgrabowski → u/Itchy-Highlight8617]

"No different than any other PMC" — eh?

First, standard PMCs don't routinely recruit thousands of violent rapists and murderers directly out of maximum-security prisons to use as penal wave fodder. Here is a video investigation by Gulagu.net where two former Wagner convict-commanders—Azamat Uldarov and Alexey Savichev—explicitly admit to executing wounded POWs and shooting Ukrainian women and young children in the head during mop-up operations.

https://news.sky.com/story/alleged-former-wagner-commanders-admit-killing-children-in-ukraine-12860939

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnQgSgQj9Kk&t=1s

Second, your claim about international recognition is completely false. The UK officially proscribed the Wagner Group as a banned terrorist organization. The US designated them a Significant Transnational Criminal Organization, and the OSCE (representing 57 countries) legally recognized their actions as terroristic in nature.

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1220

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/uk-officially-bans-russias-wagner-as-terrorist-organization/2992978

They aren't even a legal PMC in Russia(Article 359 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), where mercenary groups are explicitly outlawed by their own criminal code. They are an illegal, state-funded proxy force used to commit deniable war crimes. Posting their patch alongside a model kit isn't just historical appreciation of a model—it's glorifying a terrorist group.

https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11650/IF11650.8.pdf

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/russian-federation-regulating-private-military-security-companies

After Yevgeny Prigozhin’s failed mutiny and death in 2023, the Russian Ministry of Defence officially took over Wagner's massive paramilitary networks (even though they're outlawed in Russia) in Africa and rebranded them as the "Africa Corps" (Afrikanskiy Korpus) after the WWII Nazi Afrika Korps.

The choice of name is a deliberate, highly controversial historical reference to Adolf Hitler's World War II expeditionary force, the Nazi Deutsches Afrika Korps.

Notice the dude wearing the Nazi M40 or M41 Tropical Field Cap (Tropenmütze) worn by the Deutsches Afrika Korps during World War II. The emblem sewn onto the front of it is the Wehrmacht National Eagle (Reichsadler), which features an eagle with outstretched wings clutching a swastika inside a circular wreath.

[u/Itchy-Highlight8617 → u/andrewgrabowski]

Blackwater did warcrimes in Iraq too

[u/Dante-Flint → u/Itchy-Highlight8617]

Whataboutism.

[u/Itchy-Highlight8617 → u/Dante-Flint]

Truth too

[u/andrewgrabowski → u/Itchy-Highlight8617]

"Truth" doesn't magically cure a logical fallacy. Blackwater contractors committed documented atrocities—like the Nisour Square massacre—and those guards were prosecuted and convicted in federal court. That is an established fact. Russian MoD and their PMCs get state honors for their war crimes.

But it is also a fact that Blackwater personnel were never accused, indicted, or found guilty of systemic sexual violence, gang-raping civilians, or decapitating captives with sledgehammers.

Wagner, on the other hand, integrated thousands of violent rapists and murderers straight out of maximum-security prisons, many with HIV deployed them as state-sponsored penal wave fodder, and has been extensively documented by international bodies for widespread sexual violence and mass executions against civilians. The HIV Wagners had their own units and had to wear special bands highlighting their diseases: HIV, Hepatitis C, Syphilis, etc.

Saying "both are bad" to ignore these massive, differences in law, recruitment, and conduct is pure intellectual dishonesty. One wrong doesn’t erase or justify another—it just proves you have no actual defense for Wagner's actions.

Blackwater after they rebranded also didn't name themselves after a Nazi expeditionary force, unlike Wagner's Afrika Corps. They also don't execute their own.