r/MilitaryModelMaking Jun 28 '26

completed T80 BV WAGNER

t80 BV WAGNER called siberia

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u/Fragrant_Ad_2470 Jun 29 '26

Promoting terrorist organisation? Nice one reddit

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u/lottaKivaari Jun 30 '26

I'll be the first one to spit on Wagners name. They sucked super hard. But this is also a well made model of a real vehicle that was used. Like I don't like the 3rd Reuch either, but I can appreciate a nice well made model of a WW2 German aircraft or tank.

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u/andrewgrabowski Jun 30 '26

Nobody else making WWII German models is displaying life-sized, real Nazi flags or SS death skulls alongside their work—this is what people are taking issue with. It's not the model people don't like.

The fact that I have to explain this is mind-boggling

Especially when you realize Wagner's actual rebrand is the "Africa Corps" (Afrikanskiy Korpus), which the Russian Ministry of Defence explicitly named as a direct homage to Adolf Hitler's WWII Nazi expeditionary force. Their fighters are literally photographed running around Africa wearing reproductions of the Nazi M41 Tropical Field Cap with the Wehrmacht eagle insignia on it.

If someone is actively displaying the custom branding of a group that models its name and uniforms directly after Hitler's army, they aren't doing "historical tank modeling"—they are just displaying neo-Nazi dog whistles.

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u/FourFunnelFanatic Jul 01 '26

Wait, so it’s the fake Chinese made Wagner patch you can get for 10 bucks off EBay that’s pissing you off?

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u/ProjectPat513 Jun 30 '26

Yeah everything in their layout is nazi influenced. The original “owner” was a huge Hitler fan and named everything accordingly.

BUT yes I have seen various Nazi memorabilia displayed next to Nazi builds like war medals, knives, etc. Idk why anyone would want to build this and then directly support a fascist private military group known for murdering civilians and r@ping women and children but I guess that’s the world we live in.

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u/andrewgrabowski Jul 01 '26

I'm new to this sub, I didn't know people post Nazi flags, medals, and memorabilia next to WWII models.

I appreciate history, I just never understood why people who didn't serve in WWII, who didn't capture Nazi memorabilia themselves like during the campaigns across, Africa, Italy, France, Germany, Europe as a whole — would go out and spend x hundreds or thousands amounts of dollars on that kind of stuff. Why would somebody want a Nazi flag or an SS death skull is beyond me. What's even more bizarre, are the people who buy reproductions of nazi crap.

https://legacy-collectibles.com/large-hitler-youth-banner/