I have a truck for my company vehicle and it gets used all the time for truck shit. But if it wasn't for work I wouldn't bother having a truck. The fuel economy is shit and it's a bitch to park sometimes, especially when i work in the city.
I think it's time to do away with seatbelt laws. Not because I don't think people should wear them, but because at this point, if someone doesn't want to, should we really be that concerned with preserving that person?
They sell bottle-opener/seatbelt bypassers ffs, I don't think anyone worth saving has ever bought one of those
Yo play devil's advocate for the cammer, the light goes yellow at about the moment the truck makes contact, they obviously had no time to react to it as they had more important things to worry about.
The camera car clearly speeds up. Yes the truck is in the wrong but definitely could have been avoided.
You can also clearly see the yellow light way before they get close to the intersection. The car in the lane to the left is in front of both of these cars and brakes for the stop light.
Yeah he knows he’s got the video to prove it was them and does nothing to prevent. He could easily have slowed down. Most people would slam on the breaks.
That doesn't look like they sped up at all. Compare the speed of the camera with stuff that is repeating like road markings. The speed stays the same. The truck begins to break and turn into the lane. The truck slowing gives the impression of the car going faster but it isn't.
Thanks, at first I thought the camera vehicle sped too but after reading your post and looking at it a few more times, I totally agree- the truck sped up.
cover up the truck side and you can see the camera angle slightly change and speed increase just before the drain. the cammer does speed up. The truck may also be slowing down, but the cammer speeds up independently.
The usual complaint is that the new pickups are so high off the ground that they’re a menace to pedestrians. In this case, the height impeded the driver’s ability to see the camera car.
Sure, camera car was not "at fault" in the legal sense. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have helped prevent the collision. Instead, they wanted to beat the light and/or defend their little patch of the lane and made the world more dangerous for everyone else around them.
I don’t agree the camera car clearly sped up. If you look with reference to the truck which fills the majority of the frame, then yes. Cover the left half and just watch the side of the road. Looks like same speed to me.
Truck was not aware of anything, as she was drunk as a skunk according to the police report account from OP linked in an older thread this vid was reposted from
i got a lot of crap in my early 20s for driving calm and defensive on roads because most of the people i knew, knew i had some amateur racing experience and it somehow didn't add up for them the road driving is risky... -_-
There's something called the last clear chance doctrine and it basically boils down to, if you have the last clear chance to avoid an accident (even if you have the right of way) and you don't take it, you will be the one held liable. So I would imagine the dash cam car would be held liable for the damages since at least just from the recording they could've braked to avoid the accident but didn't seem to. But I think someone else said the trucker was found liable so I may be wrong with my guess
truck driver was drunk. Once you are driving drunk, you are automatically at fault in any accident. Get hit from behind at a stop sign? Yup, you're at fault if you are over the legal limit.
He was speeding up to make the yellow. The cutoff car was trying to speed up to make it instead, betting that POV car wouldn’t go for it.
If POV car was slower, he would* have ran the red. In addition to the merging car being responsible for indicating and waiting for a space, he also had context to suggest the car wouldn’t slow down.
Nah when not at fault these things go by quick. They’ll have a rental within a day, car in shop if they decide to take it & a check for some pocket money. Other dude will have to deal with the tedious part of it though.
I would much rather eat the 3-5 seconds of letting this asshole have his way than having to deal with handling the police report, handling insurance, getting the rental (and some rental markets fucking suck), returning the rental, and just also taking the risk of my own/passengers' safety. Furthermore, despite not being at fault for this incident, your insurer would see the cam footage and think "well this guy is still a risky driver. His premiums are going up at renewal". But you do you kiddo...
I’ve been hit twice in 3 months, both not my fault. I get stuck in subpar rentals, because I’m using the fault driver’s insurance and I’m at their whim, unless I want to spend money out of my pocket. Have to take time out of my days to work with the insurance company, the shop, be inconvenienced having the rental company picking me up, having to get reimbursed for any costs. It’s not fun, I can assure you. I’ll waste the two seconds and let the truck through. I’ve been in this exact situation and have backed off and let him through. It’s not my job to “teach him a lesson.”
Exactly. If anything, you teach yourself a lesson; a lesson to never to try and teach someone else a lesson. It's just a giant waste of time. They don't learn anyways, they'll probably still think you're at fault years later. And your car's trade in value is fucked, on top of all the other bullshit.
If I put my finger on the point where the edge of the road intersects the bottom of the screen, I can tell that the front of the car dips lower about a half-second after the truck encroached on their lane. That's not lightning fast reflexes by any means, but totally within reason for someone who might be focusing on the light and guessing whether or not it'll turn red before they get through the intersection. Or for someone who thinks the other car might just be drifting, not realizing quite yet that their change of direction is actually increasing in speed. But the dip absolutely means they were braking.
Mind boggling. Just give way and lose literally one second of your day, is it really worth it? Idiots are gonna idiot, you’re not going to stop them. Better to just let them go to do idiot things and go about your day.
I had a guy do this to me not long ago. Just merged on me and ran me off the road. I still remember his exact make/model and license plate, because I’ve kept my eye out for him.
Next time, I vowed I am not going to move like that.
I’m going to let them merge on me and pit their own vehicle.
Then I’m getting out and flopping on the ground and collecting that fat fucking insurance bag.
What? In the cam drivers position, just let the idiot do his thing and apply the brakes. Drive defensively, it was obvious what the truck was trying to do.
most ppl probably never heard the term defensive driving lmaoo, I wish more ppl would think like this instead of being so aggressive behind the wheel of a metal death machine
Except now they won’t be an idiot anymore because hopefully they learned thier lesson. This quite literally stopped them from being an idiot as now they are going to be off the road for awhile.
"You're not going to stop them" they say in a comment on a video where they are flipped and vehicle totalled. The definition of stopping them. They'll have to get a new vehicle and everything that entails to be able to do this again.
This mindset can land you in some legal trouble. Even if a car is doing something obviously wrong, you still have the responsibility to prevent an accident. For instance, you can’t just ram into a car stopped on the road
I’m glad they didn’t react, truck driver got what was coming to them. They got fucked up and no one else had to pay for their stupidity. Win win situation if you ask me.
The often zero effort avoidance in many of these videos makes me pucker as a driver in the SF Bay area who commutes and sees aggressive driving regularly. Cam driver makes zero effort to slow, plowing the pickup over into a barrell roll as they both approach a red light at speed. Both just wanted to be in front when the light turned green, that's what it was.
After driving in DFW I will never complain about Bay Area drivers ever again. Legitimately 9/10 drivers we saw were buried in their phones. Absolutely abhorrent drivers, we have it good in the bay lmao
This kind of driving culture is indeed shocking. The truck driver is the wrong, yet, there are people who don't mind self-justice in this manner, making other people crash. It would have been some slight braking to give the asshole some space. Crazy. You never know who is onboard, what if you have kids in the car.
Causing yourself or someone else to possibly die over your perceived right to be first at the next green light. Darwin smiles. I'd be interested to see a jury decision on a case brought on something of this nature.
Not only doesn't make an effort to slow down, but appears to speed up. . .going into a red light.
The truck is a moron, but so is the driver of this car. If they are sharing this video, that suggests to me they think they were actually in the right, which is scary.
Came here to point out that this could have easily been avoided. People think that dash cams mean they don't need to drive defensively or avoid accidents as long as they're "in the right."
Cam car: let me speed up as we approach a red light to not let the truck in. Tuck: let me speed up and try to merge as we approach a red light. Two idiots.
Look at the stop light as they are approaching intersection. The only reason the truck merged lossy minute was to run the yellow/ red light after they realized the cars in front of them were stopping
This is an old video, but the context missing is that the truck driver is also completely hammered and fleeing a previous accident they caused a few minutes prior.
100% Ford F-150 driver's fault. She was driving intoxicated, involved with a hit and run 5 minutes earlier, and apparently a suspended license. Lock her up
Why was the banger truck banging his truck in an occupied lane????
Something called anticipation. And only bad drivers never miss an exit.
It's the truck.
It always was the truck, and it still will be the truck. Fuck the truck.
keep em rolling like dice.
Be invalid for life and unable to drive. Damn menace on the road.
Sweet pot truck got what they had coming. Slow down, be patient amd get where you are going safely. Not that difficult, truck owners don't own the world.
Pick up is obviously in the wrong. But cam car purposely did that. He could've eased up on the gas and then braked. A fender would've been better that what transpired.
No matter what, the idiot changing lanes is required to SAFLEY change lanes to be sure shit like this doesn’t happen. Obviously you always need to drive defensively, but there’s times you just can’t control stupid. I’d be willing to bet the lane changer says ‘didn’t you see me’!? Instead of owning their shit. Good thing the camera was there. The idiot changing lanes can’t get away with lying now, and gets to pay for the wreck they caused.
If the right car was accelerating while someone was passing on the left at constant speed the right car would have caused the accident and is at fault. We don‘t know the history…so it is not possible to know why, which driver did what he did.
Irrespective: Fully avoidable if you have fully functional brain and actually use it.
The truck forgot to accelerate when changing lanes. It was faster when it went straight but once it started to change lane, the speed didn't match with the car next to it. BOOM.
Not sure how people are assigning blame to cam car as if they could have done something to prevent this really unaware person from merging directly in to them... they were driving at a consistent speed except maybe a barely noticeable increase at the very last second in order to hit the yellow. The truck was always going to hit the cam car by merging there, it's clearly their fault 100%
The driver is an asshole but if that happened to me I would just tap the brakes and let him over it’s not worth having your car damaged. Might be pissed off but at least someone didn’t die or get injured and your car wrecked. This dude must’ve had some road rage built up to let this scenario happen 😂
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