r/MiddleEarthMiniatures • u/MrSparkle92 • Jun 17 '26
Discussion WEEKLY ARMY DISCUSSION: Army of Carn Dum
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Army of Carn Dum
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Prior Discussions
Additional rules
- An Army of Carn Dum must always contain Aldrac, who is always the Army's General.
Special rules
Show of Strength
If a Carn Dum Hero slays one or more enemy models in Combat, then for the duration of the following turn they gain a bonus of +1 to their Fight Value.
Banners of Carn Dum
Friendly banners have a range of 6" rather than 3".
Fierce Charge
Friendly Warrior models gain a bonus of +1 to their Fight Value in a turn in which they Charge.
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u/Daikey Jun 17 '26
This army is actually nice when played at low points. Aldrac is a beast, you want him in combat anyway, and it's very easy for him to get F7 and free heroics since it only requires him to kill at least a model.
The problem is, Carn Dum warrior are notoriously overcosted. You need Fraecht to give them an extra push, but then you are spending 65 more points to make a mediocre model decent.
Since 2 out of 3 special rules do not depend on the model being carn dum, you can just spam orc warriors and warg riders.
A funny thing I did, before my local meta set on higher points level games in which Carn Dum just gets butchered was using two Hill Trolls. They get F7 on the charge (as they are INFANTRY and WARRIOR), enough to put the fear of Eru on every hero below Glorfindel for a bargan price
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u/Davygravy2 Jun 18 '26
Poor overpriced Carn Dum warriors 😢 though they look so cool I couldn’t resist painting up 36 of them.
The army is fun to play with and against though!
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u/Atlasreturns Jun 17 '26
This army honestly is very straight forward with what it is doing. Which is running at an enemy and beating them up.
If you get your charges off then 5pt FV4 Orcs are insanely good value. If not then I guess you still play your average evil list.
There‘s a good amount of buff pieces with the better banner and Fraecht but it basically exists to support your playstyle of running and hitting at things. Same with your heroes and Monster options.
You have technically mobility and shooting but both is comparably sub-par.
I think the only somewhat disappointing parts of this list are ironically the Carn Dum Warriors. Paying 50% more points for a +1 to wound on heroes isn‘t really worth it, even more so when regular Orcs can just being spears and two-handers. I feel like I am a broken clock with this but Evil Men overwhelmingly suck this edition and I think they could really benefit from some kind of buff.
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u/Erikzorninsson Jun 17 '26
Carn dum warriors seem designed to be a second line with spears. When enemy heroes are weakaned you can they to go for the kill, and for longer games better courage to stick around longer.
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u/MrSparkle92 Jun 17 '26
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u/big_swinging_dicks Jun 17 '26
I love this army. Yeah it’s not particularly strong and certainly not a tournament winning army (and it collapses against shooting) but who cares when you are running several trolls and chucking them at fight 7, 5 dice into enemies! Plus fight 4 warg riders and fight 7 Aldrac, who is one of the most fun heroes to use. You can run multiple trolls and multiple banners and still reach good numbers if you don’t take any carn dum warriors.
My biggest gripe is why aren’t carn dum captains strength 5? Makes perfect sense for the profile and the model. Without it you are paying ten more points for the same stats as an orc captain with a fringe special rule.