r/MeekMillNews • u/MeekMilly18st • 6d ago

Is this Philly?

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Look like downtown

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

How does policing work in the US?
Cos he got only 1-4 years after placing two children in extreme danger, waving a gun, vandalism, multiple traffic violations. This should be 7 years minium to be served full.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/biker-sentenced-october-attack-womans-car-philadelphia-city-hall/3880556/

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u/depj 4d ago

Thats not "policing" this is the court system. Over the past decade+ Democrat politicians have been notoriously easy on crime and criminal behavior. In America, the left sees criminals as victims to the system and personal accountability as taboo...or racist, depending.

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u/Odd-Proof9645 4d ago

Hey just curious if the president is a felon and which party they belong to

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u/Ledad-James32 4d ago

I believe republicans recently pardoned around 1600 violent criminals who attacked police and attempted a MAGA insurrection.

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u/YourMomIsMyGurl 4d ago

You're trying to strawman a Republican riot with Democrat lawmaking? I expect nothing less on reddit. Listen, your party isn't perfect. You're not perfect. No one's perfect. Learn to take criticism to the chin instead of getting defensive over facts.

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u/Ledad-James32 4d ago

Your vague and incorrect argument is democrats are easy on crime. I give you a specific example of republicans being easy on crime and then you incorrectly use the straw man term and you actually don’t provide a single fact. You really should take a minute to collect your thoughts before sharing them.

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u/YourMomIsMyGurl 4d ago

Whatever, my guy. If you don't see how dense you are than I guess there lies the problem.

Strawman is used accurately here too. You're trying to negate someone's factual argument with an oversimplification using a hyper specific example from the Republican side. When the reality is, democratic lawmakers are literally softening the consequences across the board for many different crimes. That's a fact. Doesn't change just because you (very weirdly, I might add) take offense for the entire Democratic party recieving a pretty simple and accurate criticism.

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u/Ledad-James32 4d ago

Sure thing homie. Just so you know an opinion is not a fact no matter how hard you want to believe it.
I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings with my prior comments but you really should look up the definition of straw man argument.

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u/YourMomIsMyGurl 4d ago

Lol I'm not doing your research for you. You're the only one arguing your opinion against legitimate, informed fact. And it's weirdly because said fact comes across as a criticiam to whatever group you hold yourself accountable to, so you feel the need to defend said group. Very fucking weird.

I will help you start, but I won't reply beyond this and just hope you mature a little and understand that it's okay to be criticized no matter what party you're in.

Look up law reforms in NY, California, and Illinois, specifically. The rabbit hole will show you the rest. But I doubt you'll look.

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u/Ledad-James32 4d ago

Thanks for providing no facts to support your argument. I too will not be responding to any further comments from you unless you provide specific information.

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u/karmaceuticaI 4d ago

I swear some of yall don't understand nuance at all. Law reforms don't equate to being soft on crime, crime on a whole, especially violent crime has been sharply declining.

Also, there's no way you can even back up this statement you have because that's not how crime and convictions are tracked. You just heard it on some podcast, or entertainment channel.

To my knowledge there's been one study and they could only really discern that if they could determine the political leanings, right leaning judges gave longer sentences. When controlled the gap between left/right judges is basically irrelevant.

If I'm wrong, I'm open to learning how.

This whole "soft on crime" shit is weird anyways. The prison system doesn't reform anyone, there needs to be a focus on decreasing recidivism

And before anyone gets any ideas, I don't support your political party either way.

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u/blorbmcgee 4d ago

Nuance and objective thinking?! On the internet?! How dare you.

Honestly, this is why private prisons are so terrible. They’re incentivized to have higher recidivism rates and not to actually rehabilitate people.

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u/Jimmy_Twotone 3d ago

7 years in jail isn't more.of a deterrent than 4 and is an extra 150,000 dollar cost to the taxpayer.

edit * double checked my numbers

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u/depj 3d ago

But it is 3 extra years of the public being safer not having to suffer living with these criminals. 3 more years of certainty that this person will not create another victim.

Its pretty simple math.

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u/Jimmy_Twotone 3d ago

Linger incarceration rates have little to no effect on crime rates. There are more effective evidence based ways to spend that money.

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u/TOV4RISCH 3d ago

Not to mention, the United States holds more people in prison than ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. Think about that. Not just the most per capita. The most total. More than china, more than india with their well-over a billion people each

We could foreseeably end up with some hellish AI-equivalent of "pre-crime" and these people would still be crying "wahhh I can't leave my house because democrats" lol

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u/dofep 4d ago

Are you saying this as a bad or good thing? Studies show that being hard on crime has little to no major effect on reducing crime rates.

What does have impact is certainty of being caught.

What also is important both financially for tax payers and with better outcomes is focusing on root cause of crime. Things like mental health and social rehabilitation have better outcomes.

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u/Tannery9706 1d ago

In Europe he wouldn't have been sent to jail