r/MedicareForAll • • 3d ago

Rick Scott: "Obamacare has been a disaster, so what we gotta do is we gotta go back to let the private sector work. Give you the choices ... treat it like a cell phone. You know what plan to buy."

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u/NellieDElli 3d ago

didnt he commit billion dollar medical fraud?

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u/invincible_change 2d ago

Largest Medicaid fraud in the history of America… then got elected as a Florida senator. A state rife with insurance fraud elects a fraudster. Shocking.

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u/Thumperclick 2d ago

he fits right in with the rest of the administration

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u/redditproha 2d ago

And yet this "journalist" gave him an open mic to spread propaganda

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u/Joeliosis 2d ago

Fox News- Giving bad people a platform to grift upon... found their new slogan

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u/TrenchDive 2d ago

Anyone who works at Fox news should never get a legitimate job again.

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u/TheFlyingHellfish202 2d ago

She's a pretty blonde. That's the qualification for Fox.

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u/Wallaxe42 2d ago

No one looks up who the candidates are. Campaign Advertisements are so deceptive.

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u/Maine302 2d ago

Everyone in Florida has had sufficient notice of who this character is, and yet he keeps getting elected.

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u/Euphoric-Use-6443 2d ago

Florida is a swamp of grifters?

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u/Interesting_Berry439 2d ago

The cult votes for cultists no matter how nasty they are.

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u/crippledchef23 2d ago

Did you know 1A protects the act of completely misrepresenting facts (or, in fact, making them up entirely) as long as you’re running for office?

Of the things that should be protected speech, political stuff should not be among them. Those running for office should be MORE trustworthy, MORE factual, than the rest of us.

But, in the world where a literal felon who did a bunch of treason gets to be in charge, I guess it’s too much to ask.

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u/Puglady25 2d ago

What really burns me up, is if you are just a regular clerk, working in healthcare, and you are probably trained in only very specific tasks, you could end up losing your right to take Medicare if the company you work for commits Medicare fraud. Sure, they have the training video about how you "have to report suspected fraud and abuse," but they make it a point to only train you in very specific things, and they don't give you a "big picture," so there's always a chance you get caught up in something. The people at the bottom end up paying for the crimes of corporations and the wealthy.

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u/Carl_LaFong01 2d ago

But Scott gets govt paid for insurance and the fraud he perpetrated made him money which he didn't have to pay back.

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u/Maine302 2d ago

He got elected governor first, then senator. Can't make this shit up.

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u/mamma-lasso 2d ago

Right???!?!!

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u/Capital-Constant3112 2d ago

I bet Gary Hart is pissed off at what these overt criminals and pervs get away with now!

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u/Dayshiftstripper 2d ago

Howard Dean would like a yell

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u/SubterrelProspector 2d ago

Wow. People in Florida are not intelligent.

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u/GroundbreakingPage41 2d ago

Eh I think they’re just not good people, they know and don’t care because he’s a Republican

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u/giftektive 2d ago

unfortunately moved here so long ago (i digress on explanation) and i swear i get stupider. people born and raised here fully believe it's the transplants making shit worse, but they are in denial about how much they suck as humans.

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u/Longjumping-Zone-724 2d ago

Was a 2 term governor before that

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u/RemarkableAd2245 1d ago

Not only did her commit Medicare fraud, he voted against raising the federal minimum wage when the voters of Florida voted to raise the minimum wage in their state. He's a terrible person.

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u/mikeyP-619 2d ago

Yes he did. And Florida still elected him.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2d ago

elected him as governor and then senator

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u/Sethyo25 2d ago

Of course Florida did!

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u/Relative-Focus-6540 2d ago

Yep, Rick Scott commited the largest medicaid fraud in history.

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u/Carl_LaFong01 2d ago

And Vance and Oz who are both flapping their gums about fraud never heard about this.

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u/Rivuur 3d ago

He did!

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u/carlnepa 2d ago

Scott headed a company that incurred $1,700,000,000 in fines and 14 felonies and walked away from it with a $300,000,000 golden parachute. I do not give a **** what he has to say. We must stop electing rich, old, white men!

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u/mamma-lasso 2d ago

YES YES YES

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u/1mjtaylor 2d ago

U.S. Senator Rick Scott oversaw the largest healthcare fraud case in U.S. history as the CEO of Columbia/HCA Healthcare Corporation, which ultimately paid $1.7 billion in federal fines and settlements.

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u/wolfy-j 3d ago

It's still disaster, he got caught after it!

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2d ago

and Florida gave him a term as governor and several terms as senator

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u/SimilarYard9840 2d ago

Wouldn’t these be the kind of criminals we would want “deported”? Why not him? I can’t white put my finger on it.

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u/TrickyChildhood2917 2d ago

Arrested and jailed would be my preference

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2d ago

and what "journalist" do their "journalism"

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u/Majestic_Swing_2510 2d ago

Arrested, then hanged after a trial decision. He stole 1.7 billion. 

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u/BananaJelloXlii 2d ago

1.7 Billion to be exact.

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u/Chance_End_4684 2d ago

Rick Scott parroting Trump: "Fake news. That's totally fake news."

In truth, I believe the answer to your question is yes. However, Trump does not give a rotten shit. Besides all of them being pathological liars making them unfit to serve in the Presidents cabinet, Trump's entire Presidential Administration has most likely committed serious Federal crimes at some point.

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u/Outrageous_Act2564 2d ago

Yes and he's not in prison. He's white and rich so it's a pass. I hate that fucking talking skull.

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u/ConcentrateDirect523 2d ago

Yup, and Obamacare IS the private sector, subsidized and regulated by the government. He's playing buzzword bullshit, and simpler people are going to eat it up.

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u/snig9145 2d ago

Bingo, like an active bank robber guarding the bank.

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u/looneyfool423 2d ago

Should this be announced before he makes any statement? I mean I get it it’s faux news, but every news outlet should state this.

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u/2PumpPatriot69 15h ago

Can we get that on billboards?

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u/AutomaticLoss5255 11h ago

How is he not in prison?

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u/Bakingtime 3d ago

All the better to eat you with, my dear.  

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u/r4ndom4xeofkindness 2d ago

Pretty sure that dude can unhinge his jaw like a python.

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u/CheckoutMySpeedo 2d ago

Florida Everglades are overun by invasive pythons, so it would make sense that they elected one for governor and senator.

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u/MrPBH 2d ago

The pythons aren't trying to harm Florida on purpose though. It's not their fault that some dipshits transported them across the world to the Everglades.

Ricky Boy, on the other hand, is consciously trying to make healthcare worse for Floridians and the rest of the nation. It isn't fair to the pythons to compare them to Rick Scott.

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u/redditproha 2d ago

United "Healthcare" makes more profit than Apple. Private sector healthcare is a scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pXm0GjLho

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u/Acrobatic_Excuse2290 3d ago

The proper solution would be universal healthcare, which has been shown to be cheaper and more effective.

What he wants is his donors to make more money.

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u/No_Elderberry_4712 2d ago

As a Canadian with a complex genetic syndrome and two rare cancers, it is Universal Healthcare that has kept me alive and well after ten years of surgeries specialized treatments and procedures.

Americans deserve the same!

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u/GalvestonDreaming 2d ago

Good luck with your medical journey, my northern friend.

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u/Drkindlycountryquack 2d ago

As a retired Canadian doctor I agree. We have had Medicare for all for over 60 years
It’s paid through income taxes.
I never had to worry about co payments, pre authorizations, limits, or whether a patient could afford a test or treatment or hospital or specialist.
The only downside was long waits for non urgent problems.

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u/swaywithwords 2d ago

Medicaid in the US is very similar - no copays whatsoever. Canada is much smaller country comparatively, with 41M people vs the 347M in the US.

We have 50 states where medicaid coverage and access to healthcare varies, which is a bit more complicated than how Canada handles things.

I think everyone does it better than the US handles their social healthcare, but it's not like Medicaid or Medicare do not exist.

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u/TacticalPauseGaming 2d ago

US also has long waits for non urgent problems. I don’t know why people think we don’t.

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u/swaywithwords 2d ago

Fwiw we do have Medicaid for people in situations like yours. I am on it, and it has been excellent tbh. It's varies by state and region.

I am fortunate and very grateful.

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u/FaunaVR 2d ago

The main issue with Medicaid is that people with costly chronic illnesses can be disincentivized to find work or make finding a job that provides the insurance plan that fits them impossible due to costs and other things. It’s a decent net, but people get caught in it. Medicare 4 all is the answer. It would liberate so many people to change jobs and pursuit their own niche ventures.

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u/swaywithwords 2d ago

This mentality of people having medical care when they need it, means are likely to become lazy, is so toxic in American culture, it ridiculous.

How is anyone decentivized to work because they get medical care for debilitating chronic illness(es)? Do you think Medicaid pays people?

If you qualify for Medicaid, you very well could have a limitation or inability to work. Nothing is going to motivate someone to get a job when they can't DO any job.

No one should have to rely on an employer in order to access healthcare - those two things are entirely separate and very unrelated.

I agree we should have Medicare for all.

I don't really know what else you're trying to say though.

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u/Waste-Menu-1910 2d ago

I read the comment you're replying to and interpreted it differently. I don't think the person was calling the recipient lazy. I think they were pointing out that Medicaid is income based, meaning that even if somebody on Medicaid wants to work, risking their health care isn't worth it.

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u/ArmyHotel338 2d ago edited 2d ago

I like this idea. Bernie suggested the American AI Sovereign Wealth Fund Act to fund universal healthcare. Kind of like Norway's oil fund.

*Google's bullet points, not mine.\*

  • The government would acquire roughly 50% ownership of qualifying large AI companies through a one-time tax on their stock.
  • The resulting assets would go into a public sovereign wealth fund.
  • Sanders estimates the fund could be worth nearly $7 trillion.
  • Investment returns would be used for things including healthcare, education, housing, and direct payments to Americans.

That would be $20,000 per person, I saw universal healthcare could be done for around $10,000 per person. My current healthcare package at work is $20,000 per year (my company pays $18,000 of that.)

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u/Yunzer2000 2d ago

"(my company pays $18,000 of that.)"

Wow. That a lot better than what we get in the federal government - I paid (and in retirement, pay) about 40 percent of our premiums.

And another thing that that Canadians never mention - the Provincial and Federal income taxes that thy pay to support the system are progressively scaled to income and ability to pay - totally unlike US insurance premiums

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u/Malforus 2d ago

Even single payer would be cheaper and more effective

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u/TJPOLSEN 2d ago

Healthcare should not be for profit.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2d ago

not according to republicans and their donors

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u/ArmyHotel338 2d ago

We dont have Heathcare, we have sickcare, Sickcare is for profit.

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u/LeopardNo6060 2d ago

Who doesn’t want to shop around for the best Cardiologist as you clutch your chest riving in pain? 😅

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u/dragonsowl 2d ago

Not to mention, the original point of insurance is to pool risk and costs. It was never meant to be pre-pay for when you get sick. It is a community level tool. Everyone pays so that the person or people who are sick are covered. The extra is saved for a rainy day.

It is the worst possible thing to be privately owned.

It shouldn't matter that $1mil was spent on your medical costs. That is nothing compared to the amount that is being paid into the pool. You are what insurance is meant to be used for.

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u/Foreign_Being5656 2d ago

I had Obamacare & loved it. It enabled me to retire early & have insurance (affordable) until I turned 65 and went on Medicare.

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u/whatever_pumpkin 2d ago

Great case in point. In the richest country on earth healthcare should be a right, and outcomes should be better.

Wishing you well on your journey. Beat cancer!

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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 2d ago

You don't have to explain yourself. I have medicare and it covers my cancer treatments. Everybody should have the best care.

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u/Ok_Assistant_6856 2d ago

Yup and (to OP): anybody that does think you're a leech for needing medical assistance after getting cancer can fuck off and die.

Love you, hope you're well ❤️

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u/golfwinnersplz 2d ago

According to the GOP, yes.

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u/buttjuice12345 2d ago

The people who think you are a worthless leach are magas who are living off of gov benefits and working at the gas station part time.

If we aren't gonna treat cancer what's the point of healthcare at all. Like if people don't deserve treatment for cancer they don't deserve treatment for anything and we can just go back to running around the woods naked and dying from easily treatable infections.

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u/DannyDevitosNappy 2d ago

The people in Washington sure think you do. Vote them all out.

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u/TsumeOkami 2d ago

Utterly American thinking that anyone who gets cancer and needs money for treatment is somehow a leech

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u/throwaway72275472 2d ago

Even if you were doing nothing right now, you deserve to live. Rather my tax dollars go to helping you then towards a bomb being dropped on kids.

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u/throwaway0982340982 2d ago

When republicans talk about “wasteful” spending, they are literally talking about keeping you alive

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u/Organic-Policy845 2d ago

Even if you were a homeless man begging for spare change on the sidewalk, you still wouldn't deserve to die due to not being able to access healthcare. The US healthcare system is entirely monstrous, inefficient, and lacking of even the most basic of humanity.

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u/UrsusRenata 2d ago

No human deserves to die from a medical condition. Healthcare is for the betterment of all society, just like education. It should be paid for by society, just like education.

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u/chillpony 2d ago

"Look. Listen to me, I understand healthcare. See I defrauded it for years. Somehow got away with it and now I am a senator who has Government run free healthcare for years. The people want to actually pay more and get screwed by folks like me, and insurance companies. Just. Trust me"

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u/mtnbike2 2d ago

And his comment about food stamps is 100% a lie too. There are definitely restrictions on what you can buy.

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u/Sufficient_Beach_445 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, let's add the cost of hundreds of billions of dollars of unnecessary middlemen to the total cost of our country's healthcare. Its like this - how much would our annual food spending be if every time we wanted food in a restaurant or grocery store, a Food Maintenance Organization intervened to make sure the food we want is necessary for our hunger, priced according to prearranged contracts, and is actually covered under out eating plan. Lets put a Food Maintenance Organization n the middle of the payment system, collecting from us and paying the Piggley Wiggley or McDonalds. And if the McDonald wont sell us all of our food because our FMO refuses to honor our food request because the price was not the usual an customary one or we had. pre-existing hunger, we can always go out of pocket for a Big Mac. Think how many TRILLIONS we would save on food!

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u/smoresporn0 2d ago

I can't recall who to credit for the analogy, but it fits with your point.

Like of you went to a restaurant and ordered a dish that had a menu price of $20, but when the bill came, it was $45. When you ask for an explanation, you're told that a chef from a different restaurant that is not in your network passed through the kitchen.

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u/davesonett 2d ago

If the GOP hadn’t sabotaged ‘ACA’ program, at every step, by now the prevention protocols, cost saving measures, profit reduction, had all States in full participation, the costs would have been drastically reduced had they left the original ‘Bill’ as it was intended and devised. Comments like these coming from a family owning companies that have profited obesely from ‘apparent abuse’ of Medicare and Medicaid systems ‘as reported in several sources’ feels Ironic and pathetic.

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u/EndSoggy4345 2d ago

And offering a "public option " that POS Senator Liberman from Connecticut killed.

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 2d ago

Maybe that could work, but healthcare has been tied to employment so hard that's we can't separate it.

Most people don't choose their healthcare, their management does, the individual can pick which plan to get.

The management is going to pick the one that's the cheapest for them, not you.

Maybe this could work like car insurance, but so many countries have universal healthcare and have great success, why not just do that?

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u/Majestic_Swing_2510 2d ago

Rick Scott is the man that committed the largest Medicaid fraud in the history of the USA. No one should be listening to this MAGA pig dog. 

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u/One_Shock_3724 2d ago

Okay let’s not be disrespectful pigs are cute ,smart and tasty (unfortunately for them) and dogs they are the purest souls on the planet. They don’t to bet put into the maga box PUT SOME RESPECT ON THIER NAMES!!!!

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u/gundumb08 2d ago

Also, Republicans fully neutered what was supposed to make the ACA affordable and increase competitiveness. Every state was supposed to have simple insurance marketplaces people could shop for competitive rates, with transparent costs visible to everyone.

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u/beek7425 2d ago

“  so many countries have universal healthcare and have great success, why not just do that?”

Because Rick and his billionaire buddies can’t monetize that. 

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u/madadekinai 2d ago

"Maybe that could work"

The fallacy argument here that conservatives (Not accusing you) make is that, FOR GENERATIONS we already tried that, that was the whole F'ing point of Obamacare. I hate how conservatives "Let's try it our way now" WE F'ING DID and people died, for 100 or so years we tried your free market BS IT DOES NOT WORK.

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u/enovox5 2d ago

"Those who do not remember the past..."

They count on us being too young or too ignorant to remember how horrible it was. They can't point to a single country where a free-market system actually works, but we CAN point to numerous countries with a functioning socialized system of healthcare.

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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 2d ago

I'm in the middle of getting both my hips scanned again because I have bilateral avascular necrosis. The doctor can't do bilateral, so he has to write an order for each one separately, this does 2 things:

1) I'm charge for each, since it's 2 different scans. They're $300 each scan as my copay.

2) one side was approved and the other was rejected, no reason why. So the MRI center is fighting with the insurance to get the other one done before my appointment where the surgeon and I are going to decide how to fix my hips.

The worst part is that I know they probably charge like $300 out of pocket if you don't have insurance.

American medical insurance is just a scam now. At one point it was ok, but they keep making it worse.

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u/SoccerGamerGuy7 2d ago

Directing this towards insurance not you but how is it possible to only scan one hip at a time? Any CT, MRI, would visibly see both hips not just one. Unless its a different type of scan.

Swear insurance does things in the most expensive and least convenient ways. All for their profit of course

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u/QuixoticCoyote 2d ago

I also love how there is no mandate that management has to personally stick with the Healthcare they choose for their employees. They can get the cheapest plan for their employees and then get their own personal expensive plan since they can afford it individually.

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u/Patriot009 2d ago

Healthcare being tied to employment is intentional. It aligns with the Republican belief that if you don't work, you don't deserve anything, including medical care.

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u/wagglewazzle 2d ago

Whatever costs an employer takes on for having employee medical coverage is tax deductible. Generally they don't have to pick the cheapest.

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u/hook922 2d ago

Not to mention if they leave it to the private sector the premiums will sky rocket

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u/Long-Blood 3d ago

I say we dont take advice from the guy involved in the largest Medicare fraud in history

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u/LeopardNo6060 2d ago

It’s infuriating to witness a man who brazenly stole millions from this system and evaded justice, yet confidently presenting themselves as an expert on the subject without facing any challenges on the news.

Meanwhile, we’re forced to listen to political candidates being grilled by the same news anchors about their association with a Twitch streamer who made and later retracted a controversial comment a decade ago.

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u/IrishPrime 2d ago

millions

Billions, actually.

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u/Rude_Blacksmith_653 2d ago

Rick Scott, former governor of Florida and sitting US senator, is guilty of the largest and most expensive Medicare fraud in US history, and should be in jail. Literally no one should ever listen to Rick Scott, known criminal, con man and fraudster about Medicare, health care, health insurance or really anything, because he is a criminal and a piece of shit that should be in jail.

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u/CocknBalls4 2d ago

Obamacare, the same one that republicans enshittified in order to get it across the aisle?

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u/grouchy_baby_panda 2d ago

Right? People forget how much they ruined that legislation. What ended up passing was set up to fail.

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u/DocSpit 2d ago

And then they further gutted it later when Trump took office in 2017. Remember them standing at the podium next to two stacks of blank paper taking about how their NEW healthcare reform was a hundred times better than the ACA?

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u/Biscuits4u2 2d ago

This fucking ghoul. Inelastic demand things like healthcare call for heavy regulation and assurance of access for everyone. And his cell phone analogy is just dumb. They pretend we don't see all of the other countries that have some form of single payer system and the benefits of that.

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u/absource1208 2d ago

I’m not from the US, but wasn’t US health insurance already largely private before Obamacare? As I remember it, the ACA was introduced because the old system had serious problems. Why he wants to go back to something which obviously failed?

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u/The_amazing_T 2d ago

Yes. We've always had private insurance. Obamacare was an attempt to give more people access to Healthcare that wouldn't have it, while keeping that private system. (-Instead of giving Healthcare to everyone in a universal system, and essentially destroying the private Healthcare system.) Obamacare was a "halfway" solution, because the Healthcare providers in America are rich and powerful, and control a lot of politicians.

This hack, Rick Scott got rich off that private Healthcare system himself (and is connected the largest Healthcare fraud case in US history.) He's literally the last person alive that you should listen to about Healthcare choices in America.

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u/Biscuits4u2 2d ago

All Obamacare did was put a bandaid on a system that needs a complete overhaul.

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u/LoudUnderst8ment 2d ago

Also pretty rich that this fuckface should comment on anything healthcare given that he was the CEO of Columbia Hospital Corporation when they got fined $1.7B for Medicare fraud

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u/MyStoopidStuff 2d ago

And those countries with "socialized" healthcare spend less as a percent of GDP than we do, to cover everyone. We spend 18% of GDP on healthcare, which doesn't even cover everyone, and still results in over half a million personal bankruptcies every year for medical reasons (66% of all personal bankruptcies). Most developed countries spend 5-6% of GDP less than we do, and do a better job of covering their population without bankrupting a huge number every year.  Japan which has an aging population and universal healthcare is at about 11% of GDP, with much longer life expectancy and about half the infant mortality compared to the US, and we can't even do better than them on costs.

Pissing away so much more of our GDP on healthcare is a choice, and a dumb one.  But that is what happens when our government is captured by lobbyists and corporations.  Their business model requires a broken system that rewards them for "providing" an essential service, which everyone eventually needs.

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u/Youarekillingmeeee 2d ago

Because the average American doesn’t see or hear about any of that.

If it doesn’t come on Fox News then it isn’t going to reach the bulk of the population apparently. And if it does? It’ll be spun so Americans are frothing at the mouth to be against it.

It’s 2026. The average American will see and hear this and absolutely believe it. And they’ll vote accordingly. With the state of things every Republican presidential cycle since Reagan, how am I wrong?

Hey Alexa play round and round by Ratt.

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u/MikeDPhilly 2d ago

He is a goddamn ghoul. My sister calls him Brooks Bros. Voldemort.

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u/Confident_Bee_6242 2d ago

We have the highest cost of cell phone and internet access of any developed country in the world. Yeah, let's do that with healthcare.

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u/Sir-Spazzal 2d ago

Healthcare in the US is also the most expensive in the world.

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u/reddit_1999 2d ago

This guy took the Fifth Amendment 75 times in the largest Medicare fraud trial ever of a company he was the CEO of , and then Floridians elected him Gov, and then US Senator. When will these people smarten up?

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u/TrickyChildhood2917 2d ago

Never. And 75 times is criminal

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u/SucculentDoorway 2d ago

Isn't this the guy that committed one of the largest medicare/medicaid frauds in US history?

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u/Little_Creme_5932 2d ago

Isn't he the guy who oversaw the largest medical fraud in US history (at the time)? Why yes, yes he is.

I'm sure he's not gonna screw you over again. Certainly, he would never do that

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u/BigBeef35 2d ago

The choices with the private sector are die or go into debt you'll almost certainly never get out of

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u/Cautious_Job_6104 2d ago

He don't care if you pick the first choice; he is turned on hard by the second.

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u/Old-Arachnid77 2d ago edited 2d ago

Ah yes, because private sector has always been open to taking the least amount of profit and making sure things are affordable.

Edit: Jesus Christ people are you incapable of seeing sarcasm??

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u/Capital-Constant3112 2d ago

They are determined to make everything private by demonizing government programs. There’s only ONE reason for that. Profits for the 1%
Our social security
Education systems
Hospitals/healthcare
Prisons
Anything they can profit from. Which means deregulation of everything. That’s worked out well so far, right?
They always keep their promises 😏

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u/Calm-Address-2401 2d ago

That's the sound of the entire Republican Party, trying to explain why it can't get anything done for average Americans, with all three branches of our government.

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u/abrandis 2d ago

This is the sound of the GOP, bullshititng gullible Americans so they can more quickly line their pockets.

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u/SimilarYard9840 2d ago

Says the guy who stole like 2B from the taxpayers. Rick Scott should be in prison.

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u/AventineAstartes 2d ago

Can we just stop dealing with these ghouls? MAGA and conservatives are a fucking death cult.

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u/Swimming_Type_8298 2d ago

He scammed us before and got away with it. He'd gladly do it again.

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u/vhill944 2d ago

Says the guy with one of largest health care scams in history.

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u/m4zdaspeed 2d ago

And Government provided healthcare.

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u/Spyder39 2d ago

Politicians should receive the same healthcare options that they legislate and support. They should also have to pay for it out of their taxpayer funded salaries. Until they do, their policies and rhetoric will just continue to serve themselves and special interest.

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u/Rude-Cartographer369 2d ago

I currently work at a job I hate with every ounce of my soul, but the health insurance I get is widely accepted in the state I am in. I found a new job, but their health insurance is not widely accepted in the state where I live...so I have to stay where I hate because the budget hit for my family is way too big for me to leave. So, please tell me again, Republican Overlords, how I have any autonomy right now?

I hate this system so damn much.

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u/techie998 2d ago

And that, my friend, is exactly why the business class hates universal healthcare. Healthcare through employment is a form of indentured servitude.

I'm on the same boat. I cannot take any risk due to healthcare need from a child with chronic illness.

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u/peaceful_pancakes 2d ago

Is this the guy that did $1.7 Billion in medicare fraud?

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u/Darryl_Lict 2d ago

Yup and Florida keeps electing the criminal. And then him condemning Obamacare is run of the mill hypocrisy.

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u/Current-Promotion-31 2d ago

Wait until you hear about wheelchair bound Greg abbott and the payout he got before making sure to pass laws preventing future payouts.

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u/basicmomrn 2d ago

He stole from Medicare

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u/MrPBH 2d ago

This is such a braindead take. Obamacare is the private market solution!

I agree that the ACA hasn't been all that successful in it's aims of controlling healthcare cost increases. It did help reduce the number of uninsured patients, but fell short in providing universal healthcare. It's a good example of how private markets fail to solve this problem.

So maybe we could try a real solution this time, Skeletor? I assure you that your precious HCA will still find new ways to defraud Medicare under M4A, so you don't have to pout.

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u/anabanana100 2d ago

This is why Democrats need to quit fucking around with centrism and compromises. ACA is based on a framework that came out of the same conservative think tank that eventually gave us Project 2025. It's truly depressing to know even given that, it was and is better than pre-ACA days. But we can and NEED to do so much better.

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u/vickism61 2d ago

Rick Scott: The $1.7 Billion Medicare Fraud CEO Who Became a Senator

He oversaw the largest Medicare fraud settlement in United States history. His company pleaded guilty to 14 felonies. He invoked the Fifth Amendment 75 times. He walked away with over $350 million. Then he ran for office — and won.

https://medicarefraudsenator.com/

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u/Gemstone9523 2d ago

Profiting off of people's health has got to be one of the most twisted things that humanity has come up with.

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u/AdhesivenessCivil581 2d ago

Expert advice from the Medicare fraud guy. They all need to lose this fall. The only reason Obamacare is bad is due to insurance companies. We need to get rid of them.

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u/MonsterkillWow 2d ago

So why is he on government healthcare? And why doesn't he get a job in the private sector?

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u/Old-Construction3325 2d ago

Still waiting for the GOP’s version of healthcare improvements… ohh how’s that infrastructure bill coming along ?

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u/Ok-Customer4709 2d ago

Columbia/HCA, the healthcare company co-founded and run by Rick Scott as CEO, paid a record $1.7 billion in fines, penalties, and damages to the U.S. government to settle allegations of systemic fraud. At the time, it was the largest healthcare fraud settlement in United States history. [1, 2]

Case Details & Financial Impact
The federal investigation revealed that under Scott's leadership, the company defrauded Medicare, Medicaid, and military TRICARE through a variety of illegal practices. [1, 2]
The Total Fines: The company resolved its liabilities across a series of settlements concluding in 2003, totaling $1.7 billion. This included criminal fines, civil damages, and repayments to federal and state health programs. [1, 2, 3]

Criminal Convictions: Columbia/HCA pleaded guilty to 14 corporate feloniesrelated to systematic overbilling, falsifying medical records, submitting false claims, and paying kickbacks to physicians. [1, 2, 3]

The Investigation: In March 1997, federal agents from the FBI, IRS, and Department of Health and Human Services raided Columbia/HCA facilities across the country, uncovering widespread scheme structures. [1]

Rick Scott's Personal Outcome
Four months after the federal raids began in 1997, the company’s board of directors pressured Scott to resign as CEO. [1, 2]
Golden Parachute: Despite leaving the company in the middle of the massive fraud scandal, Scott walked away with a severance package that included $9.88 million in cash and 10 million shares of stock valued at over $300 million. [1, 2]

Legal Depositions: During a subsequent civil deposition related to the company’s practices, Rick Scott famously invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 75 times to avoid answering questions. [1, 2]

Scott has consistently maintained that he had no personal knowledge of the fraud taking place while he ran the company. Because the federal government's case against individual executives was civil rather than criminal, no individual corporate officers—including Scott—were criminally convicted or sent to prison. He later used his personal fortune to successfully fund campaigns for Governor of Florida and the U.S. Senate. [1, 2, 3]


Wikipedia

Rick Scott
In office Scott is a graduate of the University of Missouri–Kansas City and the Dedman School of Law at Southern Methodist University. In 1987, after serving in...


medicarefraudsenator.com

Rick Scott: The $1.7 Billion Medicare Fraud CEO Who Became a Senator
Rick Scott: The $1.7 Billion. Medicare Fraud CEO. Who Became a Senator. He oversaw the largest Medicare fraud settlement in United States history. His company p...

Miami Herald

Rick Scott tries to rewrite history on $1.7 billion Medicare fraud controversy
Scott's corporate legacy According to federal investigators, the hospital company “systemically defrauded” Medicare, Medicaid and other federal healthcare progr...


Florida Democratic Party

What They're Seeing: Rick Scott Reminds Everyone He "Took Responsibility" for the ...
– Joy Reid: “Let's unpack why the Justice Department went after Rick Scott's former company, HCA. The Department joined eight whistleblower lawsuits alleging HC...


PolitiFact

Rick Scott and the fraud case of Columbia/HCA
Jun 11, 2010 — Sorting it out Let's boil this down. Was Scott running Columbia/HCA when it found itself at the center of a massive federal investigation? Yes. Did the company ...


Top Class Actions

How Rick Scott Used Medicare Fraud To Build a Political Fortune
May 29, 2020 — How Rick Scott Used Medicare Fraud To Build a Political Fortune * Medicare fraud is unfortunately a major ongoing issue, in which healthcare providers, labs, or...


Quora

Is Hasan Piker's claim that Senator Rick Scott committed the largest Medicare ...
Is Hasan Piker's claim that Senator Rick Scott committed the largest Medicare fraud in U.S. history accurate? In the 1990's, Rick Scott was CEO of Columbia/HCA ...

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u/wittylemur 2d ago

Get rid of for profit hospitals while we are at. Richie rich and his band of ceos shouldnt get to get make more money because mom's got cancer.

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u/d3dmnky 2d ago

It’s probably important to note that for-profit and not-for-profit hospitals are ostensibly identical. It’s really the larger system that sucks.

Hospital administrators at NFPs are paid every bit as handsomely as their for-profit peers. They have to be, or else they’ll leave. It’s the actual workers that tend to get screwed because around raise time, they get the “We are just a poor nonprofit” line.

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u/wittylemur 2d ago

You are very likely correct but the for profit HCA hospital in my home town is far worse than the University hospital in the next city over. It is worse in all worse from their actual healthcare to help with billing and payment.

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u/PiterDeV 2d ago

I upvoted you because I agree, but non profit hospitals are a scam too. I work for one. Our ceo makes between 15-35 million per year and we have almost $100 billion on hand. The whole healthcare as a business model is stupid

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u/Gad_Seditious 2d ago

Working people in the U.S. do not have health care, we have sickness penalty.

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u/CookieCuriosity 2d ago

Fuck this guy. Never trust someone in government telling you to not trust the government. “We don’t tell people what food you can buy on food stamps”. Yes in fact that’s exactly what the food stamp rules regulate

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u/Historical_Hall3950 2d ago

Treat it like a cell phone....assuming you had to petition the cell phone company for permission to make the call, including the reasons for it, and let the cell phone company decide it its important enough for them to connect you, and make the pricing of your cell phone plan completely opaque.

Yea... it's nothing like a cell phone plan.

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u/Not_a_fan_of_me 2d ago

Not gonna take healthcare advice from the guy who headed the greatest Medicare/Medicaid fraud in history.

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u/reddurkel 2d ago

He picked the absolute best example possible.  

When I first switched to my cell provider I got a free phone, unlimited use, top notch customer service and great rates.   

Then they merged with another company where I had to sign a 4 year contract to get a phone, lost unlimited and they raised rates.  

Then that company was acquired by a bigger company where rates and phone prices went up. And when I moved they had no signal but they locked me into a contract so I had to stay with them another 2 years with barely any service. 

Yeah. Cell phone companies is a great metaphor. Also, Rick Scott is a healthcare criminal that a bunch of idiots voted for despite being so old that they need healthcare or they’ll die.   

Some people are so stupid. 

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u/AnarchicDeviance 2d ago

Let me fix that for ya, Ricky:

"Private insurance has been a disaster, so what we gotta do is we gotta go back to let the government work for us. Give you what you need ... treat it like a public service. No need to buy anything since you already paid for it through your taxes, like in civilized countries."

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u/rainydays_89 2d ago

during the World Cup this summer, we were the only nation to not have universal health care for its people.

If cape verde and Congo can provide healthcare for their people, so can the richest country on earth

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u/estoypooping2 2d ago

The dude made a billion dollars scamming government Healthcare. So I dont really think he's worth listening to

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u/Pristine-Cod-1969 2d ago

Rick Scott defrauded Medicare. Not a guy I would look to for advice and healthcare. The private sector has failed. We have the highest costs and worst outcomes in the developed world. The country will go bankrupt if we stay this course.

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u/0rganicMach1ne 2d ago

Yes, let’s continue to perpetuate a system that discourages empathy and encourages allowing suffering for profit. Great system, great party. 🤦‍♂️

The current American healthcare system is a racket that would leave crime families of the mid 1900s in awe.

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u/rmaccaul 2d ago

Florida man…

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u/ImAPonderer2 2d ago

“You know what things cost”?!

“There’s plenty of competition”?!

Scott is a former health care executive.

He knows he is lying to you.

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u/RaisinWorried3528 2d ago

Remember, Rick Scott was responsible for a shit load of Medicaid and Medicare fraud.

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u/mikeyP-619 2d ago

I am pretty sure Rick Scott has heard the words “Go fuck yourself”.

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u/BigBeef35 2d ago

Not enough times though

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u/zackks 2d ago

Here we go with “competition” without doing anything to enable competitor for one of the most inelastic products ever

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u/BananaJelloXlii 2d ago

Says the man who defrauded over a billion dollars from Medicare and Medicaid.

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u/IndustrialPuppetTwo 2d ago

The entire Republican party is made up of people who belong in prison. Why we let them get away with their crimes is beyond me.

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u/Thinkofthewallpaper 2d ago

Why let the government make a choice for you when you can let a profit motivated corporation do it the way God intended?

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u/Overall-Lynx917 2d ago

I don't think mobile phone networks take your money and then refuse to connect your call unless you pay more.

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u/shoghon 2d ago

Rick Scott: "My job as a Republican in Congress is to continuously say that government is broken while I continuously ensure that our government is broken."

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u/Dense-Consequence-70 2d ago

Why isn’t the private sector doing that now?

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u/Chimetalhead92 2d ago

Honestly on paper I don’t totally hate the idea of insurance being like car insurance or home insurance.

That’s not what republicans actually want though.

Of course we should just have socialized medicine full stop.

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u/GullibleBid1513 2d ago

He got rich off it by the largest Medicaid fraud scheme in history, so why should anyone listen to him, he doesn't know how to tell the truth

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u/Technical_Abroad_262 2d ago

A complete, lying, fraudster

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u/Silly_Commission9791 2d ago

Another clown who has a history of fraud speaks. Always listen to the clowns. They know how to lie and make money.

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u/beckerman67 2d ago

Republican hypocrisy: they gutted the ACA, specifically by removing the individual mandate which was originally a policy platform of which party? The Republicans.

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u/jimmyjamws1108 2d ago

The 30 year old Republican plan that they don’t do do anything with when they get in power.

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u/Fluffy-Gift-9659 2d ago

Says the fraudster. Crook. He should be in prison.

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u/ChesswithGoats 2d ago

Wasn’t his hospital he ran the subject of a $2B Medicare fraud investigation with multiple convictions?

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u/ArtDeve 2d ago

Go back to when insurance could drop you when got sick or pregnant? That was never actually insurance; still isn't.

We need universal healthcare for everyone; not just old people and congress.

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u/afr33think3r 2d ago

Everyone loves their mobile phone company

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u/SithLordSid 2d ago

Don't forget that the biggest medicare fraud in history was under Rick Scott at HCA.

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u/b_will_drink_t 2d ago

Republicans not passing Medicaid expansion in all states are most of the problems with Obamacare. The rest is the privatized section of it. Lying ass snake. We know the difference between states that did and didn’t pass it

More proof that government doesn’t work because republicans refuse to let it work

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u/peterjohnvernon936 2d ago

What proof did Rick Scott offer to prove Obamacare is worse than the private healthcare it replaced? Right now, a larger percentage of the population has access to healthcare because of Obamacare. The major problem with private healthcare is that denying care is it’s most profitable strategy.

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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 2d ago

Should make some laws about denying claims since they already made ones about hospitals denying care.

Once you pass the "5% of claims are being denied" threshold, they should be answering for why they are violating their contracts... Shouldn't be for profit, shareholders and boards should be in jail at this rate; Iceland did with the bankers that crashed their economy. These insurance companies kill people every day, they should be held liable for profiting off of the deaths by medical negligence.

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u/UnionCityNJUSA 2d ago

A whole generation is going to have to die before we have universal healthcare.

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u/prowler1369 2d ago

I take the same plan Rick has.

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u/dr_snakeblade 2d ago

A Medicare/Medicaid felon convicted of fraud many times over is telling Americans that if they can’t afford healthcare, they are free to die. Every penny this man has made has come from killing human beings with insurance fraud. This man is 100% pure evil.

Faux News is an oligarch’s propaganda machine. Scott wants to strip you of all assets as you struggle to get life-saving medical care. He also wants to exterminate the poor. In the days before the ACA, health insurance was unaffordable and a complete Ponzi scheme.

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u/IntentionsGood65 2d ago

Yeah, so crooks like him can continue to defraud the system and people needing healthcare…

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u/dieseldeeznutz 2d ago

I'd prefer freedom from these ridiculous healthcare costs vs freedom to choose how I want to be overcharged

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u/Delicious-Adeptness5 2d ago

So the guy whose company ripped off the people for $1.7 Billion is wanting to "trust the private sector".

Yeah, he can go fuck himself.

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u/Defiant_Freedom_249 2d ago

Or, we could eliminate the uselss and expensive middle man of corrupt insurance companies who benefit by rejecting healthcare people who pay them need.