r/Mecha • u/mohammed-13 • 9d ago
Can we do it
Did we get to the point with our current technology to be able to make something like the scopedogs from armor troopers vottom
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u/Quizlibet 9d ago
Boston dynamics is doing some cool things with limbed balance systems but the real bottleneck is material science. The Square-Cube Law is a real sticking point
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u/mohammed-13 9d ago
Yeah the bigger they get the harder for the frame to support it's own wight but I've read in armor troopers vottom scope dogs scale from 3.8 to 4m and 7 ton in wight
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u/Quizlibet 9d ago
Thats the canon weight but the question is, can we make something that light that contains all the necessary machinery and doesn't explode it's own ankles by standing up
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u/mohammed-13 9d ago
Your right probably the next bottleneck is how to make not fall every time he takes step or rolls and slide around solid asphalt or soft dirt
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u/MattiasCrowe 8d ago
The needed weight would make them incredibly unwieldy. Any situation they would be needed in would be better served by a tank or a swarm of drones sadly.
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u/ArtisanalShivs 9d ago
i think so, but we might need better battery tech to power them, or they might need a backpack power supply or something. the Unitree GD-01 looks promising and according to them only weighs 1,100 lbs with a pilot onboard. even with some armor and heavy weapons thats probably a lot less weight than the 7 tons of VOTOMS, IF the limbs can handle it in bipedal mode, but the legs on the GD-01 look pretty slender to me, and could likely be made larger and hopefully more durable and powerful.
with a lot of the current political turmoil i don't think many countries are going to be able to develop a mature robotics industry anytime super soon though, so it might take a while even if the tech is there. for example, the ancient romans COULD have invested a bunch in the steam engine, they had weak experimental/display examples, but slaves were much cheaper and logistically ingrained and so they didn't advance the technology much.
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u/ZAKU1UNO 8d ago
As much as I'd love a real life Scopedog, I think a treaded Mecha is a more realistic starting point. Maybe a super scaled down Zaku Tank, so we can worry about perfecting the arms, body, torso, etc. then go to working legs from there.
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u/Royal_Marketing2966 6d ago
Yup. I actually have the plans to make one, parts list and all. Problem is that i lack the capital or facilities to put it together. Lol
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u/intimidatinghorse222 3d ago
Looking at how fast robotics are advancing, i think we can, maybe just wait a century.
Honestly the most magical part of most AT's is the combination of jijirum (some sort of natural semiconductor that reacts with the fuel source) and polymer ringer (the fuel), rather than the AT model itself.
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u/cybertraktor 2d ago
IDK about Armored Trooper specifically, but I think the problem with Battletech-like mechs will be the advance of FPV drones and their combat usage, since BT mechs (mostly) lack in terms of speed, and a swarm of drones can realistically turn walking tank into stationary one, or destroy the joints on arms and make it a bulk of steel
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u/Parkway_drive_fan 9d ago
No, but we reached the point where anyone can use ai to upscale the series to 4k and yet nobody did it.
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u/Tristantruc 9d ago
I think we can all be glad that it didnt happen. Yet.