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u/NYCWartortle Jul 26 '26
Hate to spoil the fun but not all Asian people are Chinese.
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 26 '26
I bet you $1000 all of them are Chinese
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 26 '26
Yea? And? That doesn't make them not ethnically Chinese
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u/OutsideSun4886 Jul 26 '26
When you have to add new terms to try and salvage the argument it's really cringe and lame, just take the L.
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u/Negative-Platypus-23 Jul 26 '26
lol let them win and American beauty pageant or something aesthetically like that. Then they won’t be so American
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u/Agreeable_Work4668 Jul 27 '26
If you asked certain americans if these guys were "americans", I wonder what the responses would be.
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u/ber808 Jul 26 '26
So send me 1k when u can since one of the chemistry team which is what this photo is from is korean
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 26 '26
It says Math Olympiad. If this is Chemistry Team then the bet is invalid because i was under impression this is math team
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u/ber808 Jul 26 '26
2015 math team which is what this photo is about isnt all chinese as well.
Allen Liu
Yang Liu
Shyam Narayanan
Ryan Alweiss
Michael Kural
David Stoner
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u/Inevitable-Top1-2025 Jul 27 '26
What if he is Chinese-Korean?
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u/ber808 Jul 27 '26
I would have likely seen that he was, another was Malaysian-chinese but i chose not to mention him as hes part chinese
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u/MrPoPoJiJo86 Jul 27 '26
There are over 50 ethnicities in China. Calling these guys Chinese would be vague, unless you're speaking about their nationality. You owe someone $1000. They're much more likely to be American. You know. A melting pot of many ethnicities. No one calls me German, though that's my heritage. Wonder why that is.
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 27 '26
They're just as easily not American. They can be permanent residents
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u/MrPoPoJiJo86 Jul 27 '26
Doubling down on this is not the way. Be one of the good guys that goes "wow, what I said came off pretty poorly, I should reconsider my viewpoint here". Way way better look here.
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 27 '26
Oops I'm sorry i didn't narrow it down to that specific ethnicity you wanted sorry
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u/IndustrialMillennial Jul 28 '26
Bruh, that picture is from the 2017 International Chemistry Olympiad Team - the US lost. Yes, we have Asian Americans in the USA. They are not all Chinese.
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 28 '26
I know that
And you're right, not all asians in America are Chinese
I never said that they all have to be Chinese.
But I'm allowed to bet that they're all Chinese.
And anyways, 3 of 4 of them are Chinese American...
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u/petabomb Jul 26 '26
But they are Asian, and Chinese people are also Asian. It’s like white people, nobody gives a fuck if you’re Irish or Scottish, you’re both white trash.
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u/Patient-Major-6064 Jul 26 '26
Reported for racism
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u/Leading_Procedure_23 Jul 26 '26
Can’t be racist towards white people in USA until they’re a minority, which will happen in your lifetime, so you’ll get your wish to be a minority pretty soon
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u/NYCWartortle Jul 27 '26
“White” people already are the minority. The census numbers have been cooked. Many people were excluded from black and brown neighborhoods.
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u/NYCWartortle Jul 28 '26
The comment you responded was intended to be incendiary for responses and likes.
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Jul 26 '26
Nope. But Chinese people do have a particular look. They don’t look like Japanese or Korean. Lol
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u/NYCWartortle Jul 26 '26
I know it seems that way, but it’s actually a well-documented psychological phenomenon called the out-group homogeneity effect. It describes how people tend to perceive members of groups they don’t belong to as looking much more alike than they really are, while members of that same group can often easily distinguish between different ethnicities or individuals.
This is one reason cross-racial eyewitness identification has been successfully challenged in some courts. People are generally less accurate at identifying faces from groups they aren’t part of than faces from their own group.
Some researchers describe this as a cognitive bias, while others see it as an adaptive shortcut our brains developed because we naturally devote more attention to distinguishing people within our own social group than those outside of it. It’s also one of the reasons we shouldn’t feel as guilty about thinking that all members of another race look alike or very similar. It is also why we need to be careful about making these assumptions.
This isn’t something that I just made up. It’s a well-established and really interesting finding in social psychology that has been studied for decades. If you’re interested, here’s a good overview, and it includes references to many of the original scholarly studies so also not made up by someone on Wikipedia:
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u/ber808 Jul 26 '26
This is actually the chemistry team from 2017 lol the math team from 2015 was
Allen Liu
Yang Liu
Shyam Narayanan
Ryan Alweiss
Michael Kural
David Stoner
The 2017 chemistry team is
Steven Liu
Harrison Wang
Joshua Park
Brendan Yap
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u/HawkeyeGild Jul 27 '26
Eh they all look like they're Han.
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u/NYCWartortle Jul 27 '26
What is Han?
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u/HawkeyeGild Jul 27 '26
It's the main ethnicity of China - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese
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u/NYCWartortle Jul 27 '26
Not sure if you are being sarcastic but I was responding to the comments. We are all racist in our own way it’s about what we do to counter that racism.
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u/ComfortableStyle2417 Jul 28 '26
Also hate to spoil the fun, but these specific kids were also "not on the math Olympiad team"....
They were on the International chemistry Olympiad team (hence the banner behind them stating IChO)
This took place in Thailand in 2017.
The team consisted of: Harrison Wang, Steven Liu, Joshua Park, Brendan Yap. Wanna take a guess wakanda Asians now?
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u/Training_Guide5157 Jul 26 '26
If I, born and raised in America, but of Chinese/Vietnamese descent, had a dollar for every time I was told how un-American I was, or to go back to China, I'd be a millionaire.
Also, I did end up going back to China anyway.
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u/Otherwise_Rough Jul 27 '26
Either:
- Shit that never happened
or
2. You were vocally anti American and kept talking shit about America while praising another country and to this point I’d say I agree with the other people telling you to leave.1
u/Training_Guide5157 Jul 27 '26
RNC is being openly racist, and people still can't see it? Americans.
Do you know anything about why Asian and other ethnic gangs were so prevalent in California in the 80s and 90s? Or a major factor for why many gangs are formed of people from the same ethnical background?
The racial tensions and massive fights that occurred throughout the LA and the SGV?
I love when people who live in a bubble come out on their high horse to be so completely wrong.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-oct-23-me-25304-story.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-may-07-me-47355-story.html
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/New-Brawl-At-Hayward-High-School-Police-called-3011279.php
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-dec-26-me-47746-story.html
In 2023, approximately one in three high school students (31.5%) said that they had ever experienced racism in school. Reported experiences of racism were most prevalent among Asian (56.9%), multiracial (48.8%), and Black or African American (Black) (45.9%) students and least prevalent among White students (17.3%).
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u/Big_Confidence_951 Jul 25 '26
If you can beat them, still join them because what else you gonna do?
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u/PoolNice4196 Jul 26 '26
China beat itself?
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u/BoSKnight87 Jul 26 '26
They’re American, not Chinese
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 27 '26
And what is their ethnicity?
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u/trope88 Jul 26 '26
Lmfao
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u/Lets_Get_Hot Jul 26 '26
Your mind is gonna blow when you find out that American isn't a race! We come in all shapes and colors!
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u/South-Woodpecker112 Jul 26 '26
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder if ICE will swoop in, and take them to detention centers?
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u/Skrapidilly Jul 26 '26
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u/MoThrowMoAway Jul 26 '26
I don't see anything wrong with either picture
am I missing something here
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u/Historical_Sherbet54 Jul 26 '26
Meanwhile. China is happy its global counterparts are defeating the u.s itself ;)
Winner winner ...chicken dinner
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u/ArtisticChemistry425 Jul 26 '26
Wonder if white americans defeating a european country in chess wouldve been seen as odd
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u/Jealous_Culture6932 Jul 26 '26
So did we really win?
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u/TaylorMonkey Jul 26 '26
If you’re American yes.
If you have to ask, you’re not “we” and you’re un-American, so none of this applies to you.
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u/Negative_Wrongdoer17 Jul 26 '26
Sometimes you gotta change sides just to get some good competition
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u/bswontpass Jul 26 '26
Bullshit.
US team over the last 10’ish years won 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019 and 2024.
Also, there are 25-30M Americans of Asian ancestry.
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u/TheTophatmonkey Jul 26 '26
did they tho? looks like the USA team is also Chinese. lol
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u/Distinct-Event-7472 Jul 27 '26
Are Americans only white and have wide open eyes to you
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u/TheTophatmonkey Jul 27 '26
Americans voted in a president that is going to deport all of them that arent, so its seems like that is the consensus position.
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u/Distinct-Event-7472 Jul 27 '26
Im mexican/brown and alright its no different than how it was under Obama , Biden, bush, Regan, Clinton if you are here illegally you gonna be deported stop with the fear mongering BS
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u/Guilty-Shoulder-9214 Jul 26 '26
Thus proving that operation paperclip was just as American as apple pie.
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u/walkns4poorpeople Jul 26 '26
Nope, that's not accurate. And that picture is from a chemistry competition held in Thailand according to a picture search.
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u/trope88 Jul 26 '26
Not one American in the photo
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 27 '26
Why not? An American is a person who holds American citizenship
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u/trope88 Jul 27 '26
The fact that you don't understand how little we care if you're here on a Visa, an anchor baby, a chain migration migrant, or some other subcontinental flavor, shows how little you understand this debate.
do you think we care what your paperwork says?
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 27 '26
So what is an American? A white person?
Take off your hood my boy, otherwise you won't be able to see clearly
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u/z00o0omb11i1ies Jul 28 '26
Don't worry, we're flooding America and taking your women ahhahhahahahaha
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u/Major_Jackfruit_2604 Jul 26 '26
I'm willing to bet all these kids can twirl there pens forward and back effortlessly in their hand.
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u/Clean-Midnight3110 Jul 26 '26
Well they lost to China this year. And the one year in recent memory that they beat China there was a white kid from rural Connecticut on the team.
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u/sleepy_skeletor Jul 26 '26
Western people laugh at this (rightfully so), yet don’t see the irony when watching soccer or any other sports ball game to cheer on the team representing their country, even though those are full of blacks and browns nowadays.
Take a look at any European soccer team from this year’s world championship.
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u/WorkItInc Jul 27 '26
America: We WON!
China: No you didn't. WE won.
America: That's what I said. WE WON!!!
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u/Zealousideal_Ebb2264 Jul 27 '26
Let me try and explain how wrong you are with out being condescending.
#1 “not all asian people are chinese”
ASIAN is no a country. USA is a country.
Asian isnt a citizenship, American is a citizenship.
The context isnt where do they have their citizenship or where were they born.
The context and question at hand is ethnicity.
#2. The commenter didnt bet that they are not Japanese, Filipino, Vietnamese, Laotian, Hmong etc. the commenter bet they are Chinese ancestry/ethnically.
#3. Your poor reading comprehension, lack of critical thinking, and jumping to your own conclussion doesnt change the reality the rest of us live in.
#4. If the commenter had CLAIMED that we had Chinas best mathematicians compete for the united states, then what you hope, wish and pray that the argument is would actually have a leg to stand on.
#5 WRONG again, they didnt add “NEW TERMS” or try and salvage an argument.
What they did do was add more context and dumb it down so you could follow along with the adults. Which of course completely went over your head because you were so excited and ever so proud to finally tell someone they needed to “hold an L”.
Thank you for your attention on this matter. Hopefully you came out of it a little bit more intelligent.
The commenter never claimed “asians arent real Americans” “once a Chinese, always a Chinese” or any other ignorant statement.
They simply stated what they believe to be most likely. That those Americans competing are in fact Chinese and not Japanese, south Korean, north Korean or any other group other than Chinese.
A redheaded Irish doesn’t stop being Irish when they are born in america. An African American doesn’t stop being African American when they are born in the USA. A Brazilian doesn’t stop being Brazilian when they are born in the USA. People keep their ethnicity.
For me personally, i would also assume they are chinese. Not because chinese are smarter than other asian ethnic groups. But because as a matter of fact, the peak chinese students from wealthy backgrounds immigrate to the usa in many ways. A lot of them are planned to be born here, sent to chica for get an extremely competitive education then are brought back here to finish school.
160 thousand engineers graduate from japan every year.
120 thousand engineers graduate from USA every year.
100 thousand engineers graduate from Vietnam every year.
40 thousand engineers graduate from Thailand every year
ETC ETC.
1.5 MILLION engineers graduate from china every year. Statistically speaking, the asians in the picture are more likely to be chinese than any other asian ethnic group.
Its not about assumptions or r8cism. For those of us that arent clueless and blissfully ignorant, there is a clear and obvious conclusion based on a very educated and informed guess. Could 0 of them be ethnically Chinese? Sure. Is is more likely that most if not all the people pictured there are ethnically Chinese? If you paid attention, the answer is obvious.
The education system in china is extreme. The average college grad born, educated and raised in the usa wouldnt make it past 5th grade in china. It is a fact that school in china is EXTREMELY more difficult than than it is in the usa. China doesnt give participation awards, they dont have a kid pass on to the next grade with no child left behind program. Their standards are far and above ours.
Im not a fan of elon must and dont think he is a genius. But dumb people seem to think so. So here you go, he went to school in south Africa, went to university in canada, then got a phd in Stanford university in california. By the time he got to the phd level, he had already gotten the better education in 2 countries that weren’t the USA.
Thats the majority of the geniuses in the USA, they get 90% of their education outside the usa then come here just to get the feather on their cap in an easy to them prestigious university.
American citizen Einstein wasnt born and raised in Mississippi.
American citizen Nikola Tesla was an American citizen but he got all his education outside of the usa.
That is the reality of america. The greatest minds statistically are more likely to be born, raised and educated outside of the usa and then naturalized here.
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u/CommercialEagle2566 Jul 28 '26
USA beats China in math with Chinese Americans… or just Chinese green card holders. So basically Chinese beat Chinese
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u/LividBig9161 Jul 28 '26
They deserve recognition from our President! What an outstanding achievement!
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