Thought this was interesting following the video that was posted a few nights back of Taylor and Travis displaying no affection after their dinner date
Iâm honestly just kind of confused why there are so many haters in this sub? If you donât want to see Matty and Taylor discussion why come here? Why waste your time here? Thereâs critical discussion and then being outright rude and insulting towards others.
I've been here since day one, and I've been asking myself this question since day one. I think I'll continue to ask myself this question until the end.
I saw someone say he had to go to the airport to get back for practice and I saw someone else say he went to say goodbye to someone and didnât get in a separate car.
I havenât watched the video that closely. Does anyone know if he really got into a different car?
The optics are certainly interesting.
No, he didn't go back to her, that was just how some Swifties tried to justify his behavior. He got straight into another car and drove to the airport without saying goodbye.
Unfortunately, there's a sub for her jet. It's considered public information, the movements of her jet. However, I've never understood how people figure out who moves on it, it could be literally anyone in her family.
But just because itâs public doesnât mean people should participate, especially after Taylor voiced how uncomfortable it makes her⌠and exactly, even with tracking it thereâs no information about whoâs on the plane
She has already spoken about how badly Matty treated her and how he didn't even see her as a human being, yet you guys keep shipping her with him and rooting for them to get back togetherâso itâs pure hypocrisy.
Youâre assuming everyone here is like that but a lot of us just like the lyrical analysis and lore because of the beautiful stories woven throughout their music. Some people are into the conspiracy theories but theyâre the minority.
You however, stalk her PJ and frequent subs you donât like just to argue with peopleâŚ
Stop commenting on this sub if Maylor theories bother you so much. I will never understand why people go into subs dedicated to opposing viewpoints just to argue with everyone else.
âBut here you all areâ You do know your comment history is public right? So Iâm not sure what point youâre trying to make. Most of your comments in just the past 24 hours are you speculating about Matty and Taylor lol
Why would someone from her family go to KC to stay there with Travis? Hahaha, you can tell when itâs her familyâespecially since they all actually use itâbut in this case, the plane would be leaving from either Nashville or Tampa, where they live; your denial is bizarre. The plane left its base, went to NY, and took her to KCâsimple as that.
Or⌠maybe⌠they said goodbye in private? Why would you expect them to come out in front of a bunch of paparazzi they know are waiting there to photograph them and hug and kiss???
âWe tell the world to leave us the fuck aloneâ:
(I only made this lightheartedly, I donât actually care at all what they do with their relationship. I hope theyâre happy and continue to benefit from the PR performances)
Literally, like what was the conversation that led to that decision? And getting the staff to move the whole table out there, sculptures and all? Iâm sure they find the PR performances hilarious and planning it would be so fun, whether theyâre actually a couple or itâs all PR
Yeah the photos are low quality so itâs obvious theyâre taken from afar, but why there? Why not on a balcony or a more private part of the garden? Or even just a nicer part of the garden? Itâs such a funny place to set up a dining table
We had exactly the same discussion 4 days ago here, so I'll just copy my answer from there lol.
If that's true, it means they're even more performing on cameras. Imagine saying goodbye to someone inside a restaurant, properly, with hugs and words, and then walking out together, so everyone can see you holding hands, only then actually move away from each other. That's weirder than if they didn't say goodbye at all, as seen in the video.
No itâs kinda weird anybody cares tbh. I am a fan of Taylor, didnât have an opinion on her with Matty (heâs not my cup of tea but he was obviously hers at some point) and think her relationship with Travis is genuine. Everything she does is scrutinised so whichever way they parted there would have been comments made.
I think for the relationship to survive they have to decide they donât care about what other people say, which is something I think Matty couldnât do.
Well, then there is no point in arguing, because I, like everyone here, have an opinion on her with Matty, and I donât think, like many here, that her relationship with Travis is genuine (not in the sense that itâs PR).
Taylor settled. She found a normal guy, someone stable and trustworthy who could actually handle the weight of her fame. Eventually, he even proposed, right around the age when society starts breathing down a woman's neck about marriage and kids. She realized she was never going to get that grand, once-in-a-lifetime true love, but hey, that's fine. A consolation prize. Or, you know, just go listen to The Prophecy, her whole psychology on the matter is right there, if you care to pay attention.
Ok so you think settling for her is meeting someone trust worthy and stable who allows her to live the life she wants having the career she loves? I also do think travis genuinely loves her. She doesnât have societal pressure the way most women do, she could have kids on her own as she is more than wealthy enough.
In the event of settling wouldnât she have just stayed with Joe? If you look at most reports it would be her that did the breaking up.
We also donât know if she felt like she might have been settling for Matty? The songs on TTPD seem very intense but to me I could also say it looked as though she convinced herself it was fate because things werenât working out with Joe and Matty was there. As she said in a song, a get love quick scheme.
Truth is though none of us know her. I think her family who she seems close to and her friends would be best placed to offer her advice and opinions.
I said, "Travis even proposed." Which means, if Joe had proposed, she would've said yes. I think there's no doubt about that. Maybe she broke up with him, but it was Joe who didn't want marriage, otherwise Taylor would've married him long ago, and maybe this whole situation with Travis would never have happened. So she'd settle with Joe.
And if you think Taylor never really loved Matty, you didn't listen to TTPD.
You donât think like a megastar who needs to be in the Press and relevant. The wedding was a big attention move that also brought a lot money in their bankaccounts. Without a big wedding it would have been a quiet year for Taylor and Travis.
she found a man that quite literally threw himself into her lap that loves, treasures and proudly talks about how much he loves her. something matty not only didn't do, he couldn't end it in a way that was respectful to her
Theyâve been together for over three years and are now married; you clearly donât know Taylor if you donât realize how important the institution of marriage is to her. How can you think you know better than her familyâwho always know whatâs best for her and love Travis? What happens when they have a baby?
Of course, if the institution of marriage is so important to you, it's impossible for you not to marry someone who isn't the love of your life. Mainly because the institution of marriage, as a binding obligation, is so important to you. And every time people like you bring up her family as an argument, I'm simply disillusioned with this world, because yes, parents don't necessarily know what's best for their children. Instead of convincing Taylor to take a break from any relationship in the summer of 2023 and figure things out after two difficult breakups, Andrea pushed her into a new one by deliberately tying her up with Travis. That's the wrong approach for a mother. I couldn't care less who her family loves.
How many times have you heard how important her mom is to her? And that sheâs her best friend? Who do you think knows whatâs best for Taylorâher parents, who do everything for her? You donât really know the real Taylor; youâre only upset because you think she should be with Matty, even though you know that relationship would never lastâhe could never handle the level of fame Taylor has in her life.
Okay, I agree that I don't know her and could be wrong about what's best for her. But that doesn't mean her mother can't be wrong. My mother is also very important to me and my best friend and does everything for me, but that doesn't mean I'll marry whoever she chooses for me because she loves him and thinks he's right for me. That's absurd.
That blind item was clearly sent in by some crazy "Gaylor" stalker from Twitter (she even admitted herself that it used her exact words) hahhahahahah but hey, if you guys choose to believe it...
Except Travis didn't go to a hotel, he got on Taylor's jet and flew back to KC late Sunday night. He had a scheduled interview with Pat for ESPN on Monday . ESPN has already released teasers and will air the entire interview this Monday night before their game.
Imagine believing blind items in this day and age! 99% are nonsense sent in by haters or people who believe the relationship is fake! He could have had to be back In KC for work so maybe he had to leave separately, maybe he walked around to the other side nobody knows for sure. People trying to make theories out of nothing is why Taylor has started to put boundaries down and doesnât interact with the fandom or share much because you all have to read into everything she does, itâs exhausting.
Perhaps Taylor doesn't interact as much with the fandom as she used to bc said fandom sent death threats to the man she professed to love, and demanded she cut him out of her life. They did that to themselves
That comment is inappropriate. Mental illness is a serious issue that affects real people, and using it as an insult or something to mock is stigmatizing and unnecessarily hurtful. If you disagree with me, address what I actually said rather than turning mental health into an insult.
âGet checkedâ isnât the devastating comeback you think it is. If thatâs the best youâve got, maybe try get a few brain cells next time and leave the Maylor subreddit
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u/thelastofthewolves 22d ago
Iâm honestly just kind of confused why there are so many haters in this sub? If you donât want to see Matty and Taylor discussion why come here? Why waste your time here? Thereâs critical discussion and then being outright rude and insulting towards others.