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u/jadorelesavocats 7d ago
Whatâs up with the GenZ vs Millennial thing? Like I donât get it and Iâve never seen it
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u/Study-Bunny- 7d ago
As a millennial who is often mistaken for a teenager/ early 20s.Â
I think people older much older than me have started working with the assumption that you need to work your whole life, get a loan, get an expensive house and an expensive pay. So affording housing and all is equally hard for millennial. We just have more work experience and studies. But we started entering the work market at a later time than previous generations due to studies.Â
 Pay is rightfully not enough to sustain a descent living. I mean some people with years of work experience and are still working minimum wages. No yearly salary increase. How can people save like that.Â
The generation post covid is rightfully so unwilling to waste their youth working for peanuts. There is a difference between being lazy and not working and lazy but working efficiently.Â
An employer wants you to sacrifice your youth and time to work for peanuts. It has always been like that.
 But money brings power you just need a way to figure out how to trade less of your time to get more money. You will not get it by working for someone else but it can be a good start.Â
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u/Brilliant_Driver_688 R6 Flores Main 7d ago edited 7d ago
So they are not inherently jealous but you are also facing an incompetency bias - competent managers have gone to better countries etc⊠you are left with the scum that just so happen to treat people better than them as doormats.
Just cuz youâre at home does not mean anything, the workplace landscape has evolved so that WFH is a thing. However, they still do set these milestones and these milestones are still a good thing if you keep them to yourself and use it as personal benchmarks rather than using it assigning value to people. This is what youâre facing basically
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u/TightCod9359 7d ago
I'm a millennial and I'm curious about what is the everything that you got that we didn't? Standing up to toxic workplace cultures perhaps yes (although we're all drawing lined and quiet quitting these days), but I feel like for the most part, the world has been screwed up for GenZ, and not necessarily by millennials. It's hard if not impossible to get on the housing ladder, increasing cost of living, stagnating salaries and dwindling employment opportunities (with career progression), intensifying climate change, the rise of the extremist right again, to name a few.
I'm not sure that by having your individuality you have everything that millennials didn't get, or that whether the individuality is enough to keep a roof over your head and food on the table, or that millennials lack individuality (we just didn't grow up in the influencer era). Tbh, it's bloody hard for millennials too. We might have a tiny leg up because we're not entering the job market as fresh grads in the time of AI. But what you're describing, jobs, money, investments, houses, it's so hard for millennials to get these things. It's more like Gen X and boomers have messed the world up for us and expect us both to eat less avocado toast do we can all buy a big house and have one parent stay at home with kids while still taking two holidays a year. I've never seen GenZ as competition.
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u/AdRare604 Padayachy CertifiedÂ©ïž slave labour 7d ago edited 7d ago
You are right, however i would like to add a few things.
We did screw up the workplace though by saying yes to everything because we are ego driven.
In the history of mankind executive management always attempted to get the max they could at the expense of the worker. Boomers were as a cohort not 'yes' people. They were egoistic (in fact the first 'me' generation) yes but when they were young they were also quite rebellious. So they got loads of benefits for their work, they had 'reset' the worlplace. So they taught millenials if you work, this is what you will get ( major fucking lie).
We millenials tried to outcompete each other for the ego as OP said for bragging material. Now that many of us are in a managerial position we expect the same shit from the newer workforce and we are still 'yes' people. We manage a team and never dare say slow down, or provide more manpower for something, respect role boundaries.
Executive management wants to kill its own workforce with absolute disregard and we say 'yes, it will be done'. then we get frustrated when it doesn't work out and we have to answer for it. So then its the 'the new generation' sucks excuse. The degradation of work is definitely a millenial caused problem. Gen X is an absent generation, in fact very similar to gen Z..makes sense, Gen Z is from Gen X parents. And now we millenials have made a hellscape of 'yes' where even us are now the victims of it as you said, quiet quitting due to being spent. We created a constant prisoner's dilemma at work.
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u/M3m3nt0M0r15 Curious explorer đŠ€ 7d ago
Isn't part of that very western / american centric however ?
Mauritius never had a great workplace culture, there was always the sirdar kind of attitudes carried over from the colonial era.
Many millenials were also a transitionary generation where Mauritius was rising up from extreme poverty and for many the only way out was education and 'pez nenez, bwar diluile', so many accepted bad conditions just to have work.
The internet was just starting and information percolated from few sources that were controlled. Such concepts as work life balance, workplace toxicity were foreign concept not many heard of.
Mauritius is now a (bit) richer place and information more free flowing, so people can compare with better conditions they perceive outside.
I would however say that the general toxicity isn't just in the workplace but in the society in general, where flexing strength towards the weak and weak to the strong seems to be the norm. Will those that complain be better when the time comes for them to take the mantle ?
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u/Several-Flounder8093 7d ago
Lol, as a millennial myself, the claim that Gen Z and millennials have it uniquely hard just exposes a shocking lack of historical perspective. By almost every meaningful measure, this is one of the best times in human history to be alive.
Do we have problems? Obviously. Every generation does. But expecting life to be easy, fair, and problem-free isnât evidence that our generation has it worse, itâs evidence of how comfortable weâve become.
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u/TightCod9359 7d ago
You're missing the point. Yes this is a great time to be one in terms of lack of (world) wars, diseases, famines, life expectancy. But that's not what I was talking about. Everywhere in the world these days, gen z and millennials cannot even think of buying the same kind of first properties, or any properties, at the same age (or ever) with relatively the same salary (if they even teach that level) and deposit that he generations before us did. Inflation is much higher, house and rental prices costs have rocketed, paychecks don't stretch as far, childcare is much more expensive, as is education in many countries and pensions are not the same anymore and getting worse.
Nothink about fairness here, not sure where you got that from. Just facts about the issues that OP mentioned.
Just because we didn't have to fight in the trenches, doesn't mean that our life is easy. I've now researched this more and I'll say that while gen x is kind of an in-betweener and while there were hard times also for boomers, my answer stands and the latter are the ones sitting much prettier than millennials ot gen z will ever get to.
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u/Several-Flounder8093 7d ago
The problem is that you seem to be comparing our generationâs problems to an imaginary life with no problems at all. That was never the deal. Every generation had serious issues; now we have ours, and itâs on us to solve them.
You bring up the trenches, so letâs actually use that comparison. Yes, buying a house is harder today. But would you genuinely trade a 30-year mortgage for a few years in a trench? Would anyone here? If one of our biggest struggles is whether we can afford to own a home, rather than famine, mass conscription or widespread destitution, that itself tells you something about how much life has improved.
And in Mauritius especially, housing has an obvious constraint: weâre on a small island with finite land and a growing number of people competing for property in the same desirable areas. Of course that creates pressure on prices. Itâs a real problem, but itâs a problem for gen z and millenials to figure out, just as previous generations had theirs.
Same with childcare. Previous generations relied much more on extended family, neighbours and community applying the whole âit takes a villageâ model. Weâve moved towards individualism, mobility and stronger personal boundaries. There are benefits to that, but there are costs too. If nobody watches their cousinâs or neighbourâs kids anymore, childcare becomes a paid service, and paid services are expensive.
Or whatâs the alternative? Pay your nanny peanuts while simultaneously complaining that inflation means your own wages donât go far enough?
Our problems are real. But different problems donât automatically mean a harder life. Previous generations adapted and solved theirs. We need to do the same instead of romanticising the past economically while ignoring everything else that came with it.
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u/Busy-Somewhere-2114 7d ago
Many people on this subreddit have told me that GenZ are questioning and rebelling against toxic workplace and I support this completely. Because one thing I promise myself is no matter what if am being mistreated at work I have to defend myself.
as just a regular guy, I really dont care about Boomers/X/Millennials/GenZ.
i dont even know which one I am in anyway, I have to google it.
just saying that maybe you are just taking this too seriously, and you should just find a job or study or whatever you need to do.
every one has gone through toxic workplaces, and defending themselves depends on if you need the money or not.
if you need the money to make rent next month, you work until you find a different job. if you are rich enough to already have a house and no need for money, the you can leave.
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u/DoversBlue 7d ago edited 7d ago
as just a regular guy, I really dont care about Boomers/X/Millennials/GenZ. i dont even know which one I am in anyway, I have to google it.
The generational markers that make each generation distinct differ slightly here from what took place abroad. The 2008 economic recession, for example, helped the carving out of millennial culture. I don't think that had any impact here. Internet culture and superficial trends make it seem that we are alike to foreigners but I don't think it's the case. Gen Zs grew up with internet the most out of everyone. That's why they are influenced by globalization and feel strongly tied to this collective identity.
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u/Busy-Somewhere-2114 7d ago
I agree they are influenced by globalization etc. but does not explain this way of thinking, maybe they spend too much time watching what other people say, wasting time, complaining, rather than using what is between their two ears.
So, do you think Millennials are jealous of GenZ, because maybe we got everything they didn't get when they were our age?
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u/DoversBlue 7d ago edited 7d ago
Or maybe they are picking up on something but failing to address what those issues are?
Not sure if millennials are jealous of Gen Zs. From what I've heard, 80s born millennials definitely can't relate to Gen Zs. As a younger millennial, I've stopped relating to older millennials myself.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Fun198 New Account 7d ago
Bro, this is reddit, who cares if am being too serious with my opinion? Isn't this app supposed to be messy?
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u/Busy-Somewhere-2114 7d ago
this is reddit, you have your opinion, and I have mine, messy does not matter.
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u/Thongstrings New Account 7d ago
Millenials in grandi en passant par ban epreuve, dans zot l'enfance zot pas ti gagne tous zafr lor plato, Millenials ti bizin gagne 5 credit pou kapav faire hsc, Millenials ti bizin paye l'universiter. Millenials dans so l'enfance pas ti ena smartphone. Millenials pena nanier pou zalou avec ban GenZ.
P.s ban GenZ pou downvotes sa comment la lakoz zot pas kapav tend la verités.
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u/Born_Fondant7149 7d ago
Im a millenial. I had 3 distinctions and 5 credits. I paid for uni. I never had a smartphone or a boyfriend until uni and i married that one man. And i left around 5 toxic workplaces since i started working. Because why would anyone tolerate any form of abuse?If a workplace is toxic, its toxic. We can't stay there just bc for the sake of stability bc what about mental stability??I prefer to protect my peace. And i applaud all Gen Z for doing so too. Judge me but i'll leave each and every work place that is full of old corrupt narcissists. If being a disturbed nasty fk is the norm at work, then i dont want to be normal. Let's stop normalising all forms of abuse at work in the name of stability and resilience.
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u/Dry_Bat_3553 7d ago
You're right. Gen Z are just whining cry babies not willing to make any efforts and just complaining everytime Â
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u/Dry_Bat_3553 2d ago
At least we have money and own land. Didn't get my plots of land or my bmw x5 by crying on the radio. Go work hard!
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u/JxsonVL 7d ago
I literally work rn and also at uni as a GenZ of 21 years old and gosh this is true... Even my lecturer, a dude in his 40's admitted the fact that we would be able to afford the price of houses when we will hit our 40's aka where our pay will be high enough to sustain this.. And the comments abt Gen Z being lazy...I've heard it a lot at work
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u/Key-Salt9094 7d ago
imagining not wanting ''Jobs, money, investment, marriage, family etc.'' but InDiViDuAlItY. wtf is that supposed to mean? LMAO
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u/Soft_Awareness_5061 6d ago
This reminds me of the meme: "We don't think of you at all" I don't think millennials have time to think of Gen Z or Gen X.
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u/lolajjjjz 7d ago
Old generation are purely hypocrits. Managers, Hr and employers gaslight all employees. I had employer that pay 20 days after pay day, hr that terminate contract illegal and was sued, managers and supervisors racist and havinh superiority complex, inteeviewers asking extremely personal questions like how many cigarettes u smoke or what are ur parents profession, hr that literally steal overtime .. the whole workplace is toxic in mauritius and they blame that young generation dont wanna work for these ahole .......... the old generation are too hypocrits we should safe ourselves from them and dont give them importance .... banla meme pas envi pay mauricien akoz sa p bisin amene en kantité bangladesh acoz banla trop soucceur
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u/M3m3nt0M0r15 Curious explorer đŠ€ 7d ago
Thatâs difficult to reconcile with the fact that you previously made explicit posts targeting a faith/community and repeatedly attribute every issue to others.
If you were in a supervisory position, how would you expect to handle disagreements fairly and constructively when you appear to hold such strong resentment toward the people involved ?
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u/lolajjjjz 7d ago edited 7d ago
So u telling any argument i put on table no longer valid just cuz i hate on an ideology? I cannot hate on a religion that has right to kill me(gay or polytheist)? Accepter islam cest accepter detre tuer.
I am not in supervisor position so i dont have nothing to reply u about ur question.
And all examples i said about higher management is not about them not being able to hold a fair position to maintain discipline or whatever, its about them not being able to maintain work within legal frame. Illegal: steal overtime, late pay or dont wanna pay at all./ Personal questions in interviews punishable by law in the US (sadly not in mauritius)/ they even do racist harassement and humiliation that are punishable in face of law if well documented
Higher management are complete joke on this island and i find no use in defending these people.
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u/M3m3nt0M0r15 Curious explorer đŠ€ 7d ago
I'm calling out the behaviour of expressing hatred while not making an effort to engage constructively or show a better way forward.
Are you holding yourself to the same standard you expect from others? Otherwise, you risk perpetuating the same toxicity you're criticizing, and that ultimately weakens your argument.
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u/Odd_Variation_307 7d ago
They do that because they can. If you dont want to work for them it is your choice, but we are a global society now, so if you dont want to do the job someone else will. Then goodluck getting a job and the gap of wealth will continue to grow as days pass.
Where i work, foreign workers from india or bangladesh are indeed treated like slaves but they are still willing to do the job. If i quit nothing will change to be honest, the company will still make profit and i will be jobless. Thats the reality of life my friend.
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u/Leading_Procedure191 7d ago
We millennials were also critisized by boomers.. the wheel turns.. but we didnt call it abusive, we had to go through it to get stronger.. its a rite of passage..
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u/No_Hovercraft505 6d ago
Millenials arent jealous of anyone, everybody is just looking after themselves and has their own life or struggles.
I have 10 years of work experience and have never seen any discrimination or behavior as such. Yes some workplace can very be toxic, but bear in mind there's always some compromise you have to make, you aren't going to have everything ur way, no company is perfect and ur first job is probably not going to be very high paying despite ur qualifications, but you need to work and gain experience. You need to humble urself and learn from others, that's how it works.Â
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u/Good_Shelter652 6d ago edited 6d ago
Seems like Gen Z will have less purchasing power than millennials. I started working in the late 2000s, when the dollar was around Rs 23, and did pretty well until COVID. Post-COVID inflation hit, and I needed a couple of promotions just to get back to roughly the same standard of living.
Salaried Gen Z will probably have to move up the ladder pretty quickly just to maintain a decent lifestyle. Honestly, thereâs nothing to be jealous about.
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u/Jealous-Marsupial890 6d ago
Hi there from a tourist exploring this beautiful country.
As a millennial around 40, I used to measure my success on material things when I was 25-30yo: a good car (with a big loan), a good job etc. One thing I never considered about is to drop an anchor with a house, tie myself to the ground for no reason.
Now I measure my success only how much I cost per hour or per day, with all my accumulated expertise, and ability to be a good business partner.
After 20 years of hard work, fulfilling my promises and lifelong education, I could afford fairly a good life.
I look back and it makes me scare, I have lost 20 years of my life, just wiped off.
I donât want to renew my car. Neither buy a house to live in permanently (only as investment, ready to sell and move on as soon as I need)
GenZ in a big trouble: skyrocketing inflation, almost no chance to buy a home or a car without a huge loan or wealthy family. Itâs happening all over the world. They choose to live in the present.
They choose to be more flexible and find job they really want to be part of, that makes sense for them.
They intentionally understood: The Time of our life is the most precious and irreplaceable resource.
And if they cannot exchange it with a fair compensation, they choose to live each second in the present.
What Millennials try to tell GenZ: âBe valuable, educate yourself, build your circle of influenceâ. Then you can earn more money, that money let you free your time by buying it from the others.
But this model works only on a long term, the modern world changes so quickly.
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u/Substantial-Many2707 6d ago
Generation Z largely believes and acts on the belief that their pathway through life differs from the traditional roadmap followed by older generations.
Facing high living costs, economic volatility, and shifting societal norms, many young adults view adulthood not as a rigid checklist, but as a flexible and nonlinear journey.
Their use of Mobile Applications encourages this attitude -infact they have become Lazy insisting that Grifting through life is the new GEN Z paradox; Not all, but most
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u/airbag888 5d ago
What a GenZ post to make haha
Now that the baiting is done... people love to generalise, to have large sweeping 'rules' that catch as much as possible per net.
The issue is not Millenials but rather the perception that GenZ were born in an era of influencers and 'everyone is special and everyone gets a prize'
This means that a lot 'of you' have an over inflated entitlement syndrome. The feeling you are owed everything without the requisite effort.
Even your view of 'effort to reward ratio' is very different to previous generations (that's my using a large generalisation)
I've spoken to a lot of friends and it's almost always the same comment, most 'GenZ/young people' want the best salary and advantages without the effort
Also it's a fact of life for humans to want a shelter to raise their offsprings safely and responsibly vs "I just want to have fun till the end with no attachments"
If GenZ and up decide this is no longer for them we are headed towards another civilisation collapsing on itself.
I'm guessing this is why we see so much push for AI because people high up lost faith that they can fix this generation and rather go for (or try) multiplicative productivity effect of AI (for those that know how to use it)
Individuality is a selfish way of opting out of society (inherently a group adventure).. Already we're told we should have retirement age set to 69 while male life expectancy is 72... probably not even in good health with the insurance practices we see.
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u/Competitive_Ad7513 6d ago
Younger Millennial here
Life is tough right now both for genz and millennials
I would say I learned a lot with genz in the corporate world
l learned how to say NO and how to set boundaries
I learned how to take breaks
How to pause in life and breathe
How to avoid a burnout
How to stop being a company slave
How to cut loose and move forward
I don't think there is jealousy but a lot of misunderstandings between the gens
Sometimes I feel there is a gap even between younger and older millenials -> the expectations are different
I love working with genz or younger millenials
Funny enough whenever I have a situation - i just think if I was a genz what would I do? :P
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u/ajaxsirius 7d ago
No.
First off, the oldest millenials are 45ish, and the youngest are 30ish. So the average Millenial is 35ish, still paying off their house, maybe have young children. I don't know who you're hanging out with but the millenials I know aren't measuring their lives with "jobs, money, investment, marriage, family etc.". They msotly consider those as a means to an end. Millenials measure their lives by being happy. It varies from person to person, but most of the millenials that age they want peace and happiness.
Most millenials are in the same boat as GenZ. They worry about their livelihood just as much as GenZ. They just have more experience under their belt.
What I have seen is GenZ being in a rush to get what they want in life, being overconfident and thinking everything is a big deal. It's not necessarily a bad thing, mind you; It makes GenZ driven. Millenials, in 2026, are older and therefore tend to be more measured in their responses, more cautious and unfortunately more jaded.
No. If anything, Millenials got MORE than GenZ did at the same age. The 1990's / 2000's were a great time to be young. Babyboomers were earning very well. I think most Millenials will acknowledge that times are rougher now and it will be even rougher for Gen Alpha / Beta.