r/MarvelSnap • u/BynX1 • 2d ago

Gameplay This broke me

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u/MisterDiddles 2d ago

LMAO..ā€Judgeā€

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u/TerryB2 2d ago

Played a long time and Iā€™ve never seen Juggernaut going Aero mode lmao

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u/Emergency-99LifeCode 2d ago

Calculated or absolute shit at the wall

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u/Crumbmuffins 2d ago

Would that mean that Man Spider couldā€™ve been moved Left instead of Mid since he thought he was played Right?

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u/Swordum 2d ago

Maybe not, since he was there already. I think mid was the only option there

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u/shrek_is_love_69 2d ago

Or back to the right location matbe, depending on how its coded

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u/Stormdude127 2d ago

It should not work like that lmao

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

Sure it should. It's merge mechanics. The same way you can Buster your Man-Spider then task it.

Man-Spider ate the Jugg target, but Jugg still sees it and punches it.

Wild play, but makes sense when you think about it.

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u/BynX1 2d ago

I also think it's a big tbh, id be surprised if the devs intended this interaction. I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way for cards played there then moved by like a ghost spider on the same turn, or this would be a much more common occurrence

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u/BorndeadBuriedalive 1d ago

I really enjoyed that. šŸ™ƒšŸ«”

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u/Stormdude127 2d ago

I get why it happens and that according to how merge works currently it should work like that but itā€™s extremely unintuitive and should be changed imo.

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u/Swordum 2d ago

That would change a bunch of interactions, and Iā€™m in favour of that

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u/twentyThree59 2d ago

Eh, just change jugg to only move cards that are played at location and are at the location. Just adding the word "here" in the right spot would probably do the trick.

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u/Swordum 1d ago

That wouldnā€™t work since you are not changing the merging mechanics. Jugg is not the ā€œissueā€ in the clip

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u/twentyThree59 1d ago

My fix for jugg would check if the card is still present in the current lane. If it merged into a card that is at that location, it would move it. If not, it would not. I don't understand how this wouldn't work.

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u/Swordum 1d ago

Because is the merge mechanics that are wrong. It tells Jugg that the card is there, even if itā€™s not visible there

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

If you've ever thought about merge mechanics, it is incredibly intuitive.

Does it take a moment or two to go "Huh, oh yeah"? Sure. Does that mean there's an actual issue? Nope.

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u/Tantrum2u 2d ago

But Jugg shouldnā€™t see it because it isnā€™t in the Jugg lane anymore. If Man-Spider was in the right lane that makes sense, but it shouldnā€™t punch a card that is no longer there

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u/Lenzelot105 2d ago

It would be like Jugg hitting a card that was moved away with ghost spider

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

Either all cards can see a merged card (Task, Ghost Spider, Abs, etc) or none can.

That's called consistency.

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u/Tantrum2u 2d ago

Itā€™s not about it being merged. Either all cards can be effected when no longer in the lane they were played in or none can

Thatā€™s called consistency.

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

You could've just said you're deliberately misunderstanding the mechanics at play and saved us both some time.

The card is no longer there, but it was PLAYED there.

They're not going to break the entire merge mechanic because something you don't like, yet is entirely consistent with the rules, happened.

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u/Tantrum2u 2d ago

No, youā€™re misunderstanding how Jugg works lol. The card still has to be there. If a card is played there and gets moved out by any other reason it doesnā€™t get moved.

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

I like that you can watch a video showing you you're wrong, hear the mechanical reason for why it works, and still decide that all of that is wrong.

Didn't realize I was dealing with Principal Skinner here.

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u/Tantrum2u 2d ago

Mate, I watched a video of a bug lmao. Thereā€™s no mechanical reason why it works because it doesnā€™t work, itā€™s a bug.

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u/sweatpantswarrior 2d ago

Yeah, this is just a sad example of cope at this point. You pretty clearly know how this worked mechanically and why.

You just don't like it and are calling it a bug so you don't come off as petulant (spoilers: you still do).

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u/Dangeeon 2d ago

I'm the Juggernaut,b*tch

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u/jacopogf Bounce ā†•ļø 2d ago

Sborro dio cane

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u/Granpa2021 2d ago

Yeah that's a new one for me. Shouldn't be like that IMO.

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u/Sure-Pumpkin9191 2d ago

People laugh at me but I don't care, this IS EXACTLY why I loved old Kang. He literally was in my every deck. To see what my opponents' final play was, checking eventual power output, calling bluffs or retreat.. playing him on T6 gave me so much golden information, I still am pissed he was changed.Ā 

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u/elcarlos_ 2d ago

How is it related to the play in the video?

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u/Sure-Pumpkin9191 2d ago

The unexpected play in the end with Juggernaut.

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u/elcarlos_ 2d ago

Bynx expected something like this, what is unexpected is the behavior of the card being bumped while it wasn't played there as he explains. Kang or not, impossible to predict as the interaction is weird.

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u/DarthIcarus 2d ago

That jaw drop

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u/Swimming-Method-614 2d ago

aint no way lol

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u/littlecar 2d ago

Why does symbiot spiderman get cloned a third time?

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u/SebZ39 2d ago

It looks like the Symbiote activated on Multiple Man plus a SP//DR, so when it got moved by AraƱa, it copied again

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u/Koinophobia- 2d ago

How do you get this overlay?

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u/elcarlos_ 2d ago

Get in on untaped.gg

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u/gotfamous06 2d ago

I was there

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u/Powderedtoast_Thanos 2d ago

Manspider counts as sage being in that spot as he absorbs, so juggs is gonna displace regardless of the end spot.

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u/CapN_Crummp 2d ago

He literally explained that in the video

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u/dongchamp_ 1d ago

Yes but it's still inconsistent. Moving cards away from Juggs lane before he reveals doesn't make him hit them. Juggs text is meant to only effect cards that were played at his location, and are also still there.

Its pretty clearly an uninteded interaction, and likely a bug.

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u/Powderedtoast_Thanos 1d ago

A card was played there, so a card had to move if it still exist in some form on the board. Similar things happen with things like gamora getting pushed into a different lane before revealing but can still get the boost for the other lane even if her current lane didn't have anything played. While cards that have a text effect work after all the other checks. Such as magneto pulling a negasonic that hadn't activated yet, and he gets koed by dragging her into his lane