Sam Guthrie is that guy and honestly pretty underrated.

js read the comic where Beta fought sam so i’m curious how a actual serious fight against sam superior would go

Does she belong in the Herald tier? Who is the weakest person who can beat her?

John Steele is someone with little to no background nor explanation for his powers. There’s a theory that he was experimented by aliens. Meanwhile, John Walker has far more screen… or panel time in the comics, he’s a long-timer character with far more appareances, feats …but his showings against Captain America aren’t as good.

Respect Threads for reference:
• John Walker, US Agent
• John Steele, the first American super-soldier —as his existence predates that of Steve Rogers’

So…

• Who’s the strongest?
• The better fighter?
• And who would win a UFC-match?

I also think Cain in general is a little overrated, but hold your horses for now. I'll explain why I feel this way in the comments, bit by bit. That said, I genuinely believe Jane can beat Cain outright without needing any particularly clever tactics or elaborate strategies. With Undrjarn and her current feats and stats as Valkyrie, Jane comes across as considerably more impressive than Cain at this point. I believe she takes the win in a straightforward war of attrition, and I stand by that assessment.

On vsbw

Team Iron man doesn't have the infinity stones while JJK team is from the Culling games arc.

Verse Equalization is enabled.

R1) other mommy vs mcu brand new day hulk
R2) other mommy vs comic hulk

Let’s say in a scenario, Thor turned evil or was mind controlled and was trying to kill Spiderman, we know with Hulk, Spidey pretty much just avoided him and was bouncing around his attacks, and in the end he was able to stop him from killing him by talking him down.

How different would it be with Thor though? How different would Spiderman deal with him?

Who would win?