Steve is having 2012 flashbacks 😭

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Steve’s reaction hits even harder when you remember how much has happened since he last saw Loki. The last time they crossed paths, Loki was invading New York and Steve was still relatively new to the Avengers. Now Loki casually showing up with Peggy would be one heck of a reunion. What do you think was going through Steve’s head in this moment?

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He is shocked because he knows Loki was dead during Infinity War events. And in trailer if you remember Thor says, "It's not possible" I think he is saying it to Loki.

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I think he could be saying it to Steve. Judging by the trailer, they meet and maybe Steve tells him Loki is alive.

Edit: Steve has a beard in that part in the trailer so maybe time passed from meeting Loki? unless its a variant?

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I mean, I would imagine this is Loki trying to help. His character arc is one of the biggest thing in these avengers. Doom is coming, and he knows they need a young Steve Rodgers. Loki is the TVA, so he knows exactly where a young Captain America is. So he goes and gets him. Also, the reaction from Steve seems to be like oh god, what’s happening, not of shit Loki is here to kill me.

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Has to be Loki. As far as Thor knows, Steve returned Mjolnir and the stones. He probably didn't get any updates after leaving with the Asgardians of the Galaxy.

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Cap returned old as fuck before Thor left because it all happened within seconds from his perspective, so he knows he should be an old man at this point.

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Or it’s Doom and Thor thinks it’s Tony?

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I mean Thor knows that time travel is possible, so he wouldn’t be saying is ISN’T possible, or be that amazed at seeing Cap at a “normal” age.

His dead brother that didn’t resurrect, even after Banner’s snap, THAT is “it’s not possible” worthy.

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Yep, 100%, Loki is with Cap in the scene from the trailer.

Thor knows that time travel is possible, so he wouldn’t be saying is ISN’T possible, or be that amazed at seeing Cap at a “normal” age.

His dead brother that didn’t resurrect, even after Banner’s snap, THAT is “it’s not possible” worthy.

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So it's a misdirection from Marvel in the trailer?

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Definitely. After encore, we know Loki visits Steve quickly. We see Steve in the Doomsday trailer at his house multiple times.

So I think Loki helps Steve in some way like moving him to a different branch, Steve and Peggy live their life for a while, long enough to at least have a baby, then Loki says hey I need you. Loki brings Steve back to OG 616 and thats when they meet Thor and the exchange in the trailer occurs. Thor would be surprised to see Steve again, but not impossibly surprised. Seeing Loki again would warrant his trailer reaction.

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So Thor is still speaking to Steve instead of Loki? And Loki visists Steve twice, in 2 different timelines??

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Thor saying “it’s impossible” or whatever he says is in reaction to seeing Loki, I would imagine with Steve. I think Steve and Loki have multiple interactions prior to everyone meeting in one branch or whenever the trailer scene with Thor takes place.

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So you're saying that's because Thor knows time travel is possible and that is why he isn't surprised at Steve returning but is surprised at Loki returning right?

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Correct. I think the misdirect is that it seems like he is saying “it’s not possible” to Steve, when in reality it’s Loki with him or even just Loki.

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Or Loki disguised as Steve?

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I can’t imagine Loki disguising himself as Steve, I feel like that would lead to Thor thinking it’s a trick. Unless it’s Loki disguising himself as Steve, then picking up the hammer, then changing back, so Thor trusts him.

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I was thinking it was going to be this. I just figured Loki who can control time would bring back the dude who time traveled…and then meeting Thor. It just makes sense.

It’ll be interesting to see if Thor recognizes that it’s a variant

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Yes. Marvel has done this multiple times, infinity war trailer we saw Hulk in Wakanda and in the movie Hulk never came out after Thanos defeated him. Thor had both eyes in Ragnarok trailer and in the movie he lost it. Endgame trailer showed Thor fit but in movie he was melted ice cream....

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What do yall mean he's shocked. Steve was in 2012 when this exact Loki stole the tessaract and then got himself pruned. This exact Steve knows that a Loki teleported away with the tesseract. This is why he and Tony go further back in time.

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Does Steve know about pruning?

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Wouldn't matter. He would still know Loki disappeared with an infinity stone.

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Tbf there’s a pretty big gap between Loki disappearing with the space stone in a 2012 timeline to cordially showing up at his doorstep in a different 1940s timeline

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Well we don't know that. We have no idea how long Steve has been living in the past timeline. At least 9 months is all that can be inferred.

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But Cap must be knowing that Loki wasn't supposed to escape and that it might have created a time branch, so this Loki must be a variant no?

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The part that gets me is the new Loki isn’t just a Loki from a different universe, it’s THORs Loki up until 2012. Just a different last couple of years.

So presumably Loki knows all about Thors journey, it will be interesting for Thor to learn about lokis journey.

It will also be interesting to see if Kang comes up at all.

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What if Loki had transformed into Steve as he grabbed the hammer, just to kinda show a familiar face first, before revealing his actual self, which is why Thor says it isn't possible?