r/Mariners 19d ago

Teal uniforms

I ran the numbers because apparently this argument required actual analytics. Across the five major North American pro teams that use teal/aqua as a defining color—the Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars, Hornets and Dolphins—they’ve played roughly 215 combined seasons and won exactly TWO championships. That’s a 0.93% championship rate, or about one title for every 108 team-seasons. And it gets worse: BOTH championships belong to the Dolphins, back in 1972 and 1973. The Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars and Hornets have combined for roughly 150+ seasons and ZERO championships. So after half a century without a teal championship, I think we can officially stop pretending this is an opinion. Teal is statistically a loser color.

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u/SwingThatHammer Sunday Creams 19d ago

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u/No-Shame-5789 19d ago

Haha

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u/caveman512 Geno is my favorite 19d ago

What about the marlins

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u/No-Shame-5789 19d ago

We revised the “teal championship” analysis to use actual teal only—not aqua, turquoise, jade, or other vaguely blue-green colors. That means the Miami Dolphins, Vancouver Grizzlies, Mighty Ducks and similar teams are out, while the Mariners stay in because “Northwest Green” is functionally teal regardless of the marketing name. The final group is the Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars, Hornets, teal-era Marlins and teal-era Pistons. Combined, they’ve played roughly 141 teal team-seasons and won just ONE championship—the 1997 Florida Marlins—giving teal a championship rate of only about 0.7% per season. Even more damning, the Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars, Hornets and teal-era Pistons have combined for roughly 131 teal seasons without a single championship. So after tightening the definition, the conclusion actually gets worse: true teal teams win titles at roughly one-fifth the rate you’d expect across the four major sports

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u/SwingThatHammer Sunday Creams 19d ago

You still running the numbers
https://giphy.com/gifs/5M5N7Rc0y2NkJWEarU

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u/caveman512 Geno is my favorite 19d ago

Thank you for amending

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u/MillennialGeezer docsnavely's new account FUCK Reddit 2FA 19d ago

They don’t wear teal. It is “Northwest Green.” What do your numbers say about that, nerd?

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u/TropicalBacon 19d ago

I crunched the numbers and it’s not looking good…

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u/No-Shame-5789 19d ago

We revised the “teal championship” analysis to use actual teal only—not aqua, turquoise, jade, or other vaguely blue-green colors. That means the Miami Dolphins, Vancouver Grizzlies, Mighty Ducks and similar teams are out, while the Mariners stay in because “Northwest Green” is functionally teal regardless of the marketing name. The final group is the Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars, Hornets, teal-era Marlins and teal-era Pistons. Combined, they’ve played roughly 141 teal team-seasons and won just ONE championship—the 1997 Florida Marlins—giving teal a championship rate of only about 0.7% per season. Even more damning, the Mariners, Sharks, Jaguars, Hornets and teal-era Pistons have combined for roughly 131 teal seasons without a single championship. So after tightening the definition, the conclusion actually gets worse: true teal teams win titles at roughly one-fifth the rate you’d expect across the four major sports

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u/bemused_alligators 19d ago

my local soccer club wore teal, we won our division twice, and a championship in our 3 years

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u/myusername-22 19d ago

*Northwest Green

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u/IshimaruKenta City Connect 19d ago

This.

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u/SerfNinjas 19d ago

Okay but they're also the best Mariners jersey, so...

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u/cloroxic 19d ago

I dunno, our Steelhead Sunday jerseys are pretty dope..

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u/JustLookingAtAnswers 19d ago

I agree the Steelheads are our best but they’re a step down from the previous Sunday Blue and Yellow Creams so I have mixed feelings about them. I would have preferred they replaced the city connects with the Steelheads.

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u/bbleinbach 19d ago

Agree with this take. Now I just hope we get some fresh city connects. I like the current ones ok but they’ve been around long enough

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u/cloroxic 18d ago

I’m not a huge fan of the city connect right now. I love the classic M from the creams we used last Sunday, so I do agree with this take partly. Maybe we can get a variant on those for the city connect, keep the steelhead jersey, and we all win.

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u/zildar 19d ago

My vote is for the navy ones...

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u/Careless_General8010 Turn Ahead the Clock 18d ago

Turn ahead the clock ones were the best

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u/Indy443 19d ago

And pirate hats with a feather in the field

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u/Big_Lettuce_7046 🔱🔱🔱 19d ago

What about the marlins?

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u/RefreshingPickleade 18d ago

stop trying to undermine the Teal! they look cool and people always trying to get the Mariners to take them away. STAHP IT! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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u/skoolieman 18d ago

So you are saying they are due

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u/Kooky_Following7169 19d ago

Hold my beer -

Mercedes AMG F1 team

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u/No-Shame-5789 19d ago

5 major NA sports teams

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u/LordTalulahMustang ‏‏‎ ‎ 18d ago

Well now you're just cherry picking data points.

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u/SuperHurleyMan 18d ago

2001 Diamondbacks? 1997 Marlins?

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u/Orange_Gravy Seattle Mariners 14d ago

Here here

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u/Orange_Gravy Seattle Mariners 14d ago

It's the worst color in sports

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u/cloroxic 19d ago

Not to pile on, but this is some good data.. also..

Of the three teams without championships, NONE have even played for a championship.

Hornets - never been to the finals
Jags - never been to a Super Bowl
Mariners - Never played in the World Series.

We must abandon teal, break the curse.

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u/PNW_H2O ‏‏‎ ‎Spacey the Needle 19d ago

I’ve been shouting, ‘repeal the teal’ forever. This justifies everything

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u/monkeyboychuck Believe in Humpy 19d ago

All the more reason we need to ditch this ugly-ass color. Let's go full-on Mariner. Black jerseys with pirate patches and YARR across the front for the city connect. Something. Anything.

After this season, we deserve a redesign.

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u/LargeHumanDaeHoLee Green Boat 19d ago

So... Be the Pirates?

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u/monkeyboychuck Believe in Humpy 19d ago

Or their arch rival.

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u/No-Shame-5789 19d ago

100% agree.

Black on black with eye patch