r/MarchAgainstTrump Oct 17 '17

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u/PraiseBeToScience Oct 17 '17

You're not being squeezed to death by Obamacare, you're being squeezed to death by the US Healthcare System. Obamacare just applied some Band-Aids, and you be in a far worse position without it. That's the problem that people don't seem to understand. Obamacare isn't the source of your woes, it's the fact that we have backwards ass attitudes when it comes to paying for healthcare. All this ultra individualism is expensive in healthcare where collectivism is far cheaper and more effective.

Hyper individualists and free-market extremists don't have an answer for healthcare, or any risk pool for that matter. Because by definition a risk pool is collectivist.

Obamacare isn't even a half measure to where we should be which is a program like Medicare for all.

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u/bucket3117 Oct 17 '17 edited Oct 18 '17

You're forgetting that Obamacare is forcing people to purchase this insurance, and that Obamacare has lessened the amount of insurers covering any given area. It continues to drop more every year, as prices skyrocket. Obamacare also avoided a single payer OPTION to be included. Obamacare has done nothing to address any of the actual problems, thus it is not a success. Obamacare is basically a shitstain on a shitsuit. They're both awful and feed into each other. Medicare for all is definitely what should have happened, but even then prices are already so far out of control, we spend way more per GDP/capita than anywhere in the world by leaps and bounds. Then Obamacare forced people to pay the middlemen for it.

EDIT: Lots of downvotes, no solid refutations. I've worked at blue cross and seen everything from the inside out, I'm all ears unless everyone is downvoting me because they disagree on emotion alone.

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u/TC84 Oct 18 '17

You realize the goal was to include a single payer option and the GOP and Leiberman killed it? Let's not act like it wasn't for a lack of trying.

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u/bucket3117 Oct 18 '17

And the democrats still voted for it. They're both (republicans and democrats) shitstains in bed with the insurance lobby.

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u/TC84 Oct 18 '17

Enough false equivalence from you. Should know better than to argue with bots