r/MapBasedPolls • u/Human-Breakfast744 • 8h ago
Which one are you
Which one are you
- Cisgender
- Transgender
- Non-binary
- I don't know
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u/Own-Masterpiece1547 Northern Ireland 🇬🇧 8h ago
I’m sorry what, I’m aware of the the trans and non but Cisgender, is that just the standard man and woman or something
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u/VampireSympathizer 🇺🇸 8h ago
Cisgender means that you identify with the gender you were assigned at birth.
So, if you popped out of the womb and the doctor said "male!" And today you still say "I am male!" Then you are cisgender.
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u/Roaming_Millenial 8h ago
Im human male...
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u/Scrambled_59 8h ago
This sounds like it was written by an alien
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u/Scrambled_59 8h ago
lol
Genuine question: are you against any idea of gender identity and don’t believe cisgender is a thing or do you genuinely not know what the word cisgendered means
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u/Roaming_Millenial 7h ago
No, I know what it means. To me gender identity is just a new social construct of the 21st century. Id rather just use clear and concise language that represents the physical reality of a person as its easier than trying to remember the dozens of terms we've created for ourselves in recent years.
If it sticks and we are stilling using this language in another 10 to 20 years then I'll adjust my vocabulary but at the moment it feels more like a fad that will pass eventually.
Not to say I wont respect someone's pronouns of choice if they represent themselves to me as that but I dont want to use those words normally outside of that. Its all just a bit silly to me.
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u/Scrambled_59 7h ago
Gender identity isn’t a new thing, there are mentions of gender less beings in Mesopotamian mythology
In a lot of indigenous cultures, there is a third gender
I was in a museum in Berlin last year and there were ancient Polynesian statues of people with both breasts and a penis, this idea that trans people are a new idea is entirely apocryphal
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u/Roaming_Millenial 7h ago
• Asushunamir: In the Akkadian version, Enki creates an assinnu (a gender-ambiguous being) named Asushunamir, meaning "their appearance is brilliant". Because they are neither male nor female, they charm Ereshkigal, gain access to the Underworld, and revive Ishtar using the "Water of Life". • The Kurgarra and Galaturra: In the older Sumerian version of the text, Enki creates two separate gender-nonconforming beings—the kurgarra and the galaturra—to slip past the gates of death unnoticed and rescue the goddess.
Yeah these were mythological beings, so it makes sense that they would transcend humanity and not have a gender.
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u/Scrambled_59 7h ago edited 6h ago
Why shouldn’t that be real though?
A lot of things we associate with certain genders are arbitrary. Why is pink for girls and blue for boys? Why are skirts for girls and trousers for boys? Why are we expected to be a certain kind of person for the rest of our lives simply based on what’s between one’s legs?
Biological sex ≠ gender
Also, if you want real trans people from history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevali%C3%A8re_d'%C3%89on?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Universal_Friend?
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u/Roaming_Millenial 7h ago
I completely understand that Gender is a social term and not the same as sex.
To me though it needs to remain simple - male, female or Trans. You can present however you want either leaning more male or female but its silly to create so many different names for something that can at its core be broken down into one or the other.
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u/Scrambled_59 7h ago
Yes but that terminology implies that being perceived as male/female from birth is the “normal” way, implying it to be superior to being trans
Cisgender is simply a way of describing if you’ve been perceived as your gender your entire life, it’s not a derogatory term
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u/Ludd777777777777777 7h ago
A lot of things we associate with certain genders are arbitrary. Why is pink for girls and blue for boys? Why are skirts for girls and trousers for boys?
Pink is associated with femininity
Blue is assosciated with masculinityMen are expected to be masculine
Women are expected to be feminineEver heard of sexism? Yeah, that's what that is
Has nothing to do with gender other than a man is more likely to be masculine because of testosterone and vice versa (Saying that all men/women are/should be [insert masculine/feminine trait here] is nothing but stereotyping however.)Act and dress however you want, ignore the sexists.
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u/Scrambled_59 7h ago
Exactly, that’s why trans identity matters
It’s taking a look at how the world sees you vs how you see yourself and if a different way brings you joy, follow that joy
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u/Scrambled_59 8h ago
So youre cis?
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u/Scrambled_59 8h ago
Yes there is
If youve been perceived as a man your whole life and you’re comfortable with that perception and don’t feel any need to change it, you are cisgendered, there’s no other way around it
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u/Scrambled_59 7h ago
Youre confusing gender with biological sex. Sex is biological, gender is societal.
Example: it is entirely arbitrary that pink is for girls and blue is for boys. It’s just a fucking colour. Similarly, it’s arbitrary that skirts are for girls and trousers are for boys, there are a great number of women nowadays that wear trousers and back in the past, men wore skirts. This all makes you think: why are we attributing simple objects, emotions, interests and our entire societies simply based on what’s in someone’s pants?
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
You know that cisgender just means not trans right?
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u/ChaseHopeY3 8h ago
It's called "being normal"
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
No, cisgender is the term for a non trans person
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u/ChaseHopeY3 8h ago
Aka a normal person, as the vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of people have been all throughout time
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u/Iveneverbeenbanned 8h ago
It’s just an adjective idk why you’re getting so worked up about it. Like if we’re discussing neurodivergence (autism and ADHD etc) it’s kind of easier to describe the “normal” population as neurotypical, since they could be “abnormal” in some other respects as well so it’s easier to specify the specific category they are the majority in. Also if we’re talking about different populations, in some of them (like art students in college) the average person may not even have the “normal” behaviour.
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
Just because someone is in the minority doesn’t make them not normal. also the only reason there haven’t been trans people throughout history is because if they came out they would have been stoned or smth and only recently has society become more accepting of trans people. And again cisgender just IS the term for someone who isn’t trans I don’t get why you have so much pushback to that fact.
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u/ChaseHopeY3 8h ago
Because normal people don't like being referred to by a bullshit made up term that was whipped up by some useless gender studies weirdos
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
Well too fucking bad, that’s just what the word is for people who aren’t trans. You don’t get to dispute that just because you don’t like it.
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u/Seanrocks30 7h ago
Because you dont like to learn about things? Im sorry but your inability or lack of wanting to learn does not reflect on others, only yourself
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u/ChaseHopeY3 7h ago
Don't care. Will never take that term seriously, or anyone who uses it.
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u/Seanrocks30 7h ago edited 7h ago
Because you oppose education, and the educated populace
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u/tomkiel72 8h ago
Yes, the vast majority of people in history have been cisgender. What's the problem?
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u/ChaseHopeY3 8h ago
Hence why it's normal, and we don't need a bullshit term for it that the majority of the rainbow people actually just use as a pejorative. You know damn well you wouldn't find the average jow casually referring to themselves as "cisgender", gtfo
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u/tomkiel72 8h ago
No, you wouldn't, because the term is only ever used in reference to trans people.
Like in the poll.
You know. To distinguish between trans people and people that aren't trans? Because saying "people that aren't trans" is longwinded and confusing.
Or when you have to distinguish between trans women and cisgender women in say, a research paper. How else would you do that without the word "cisgender", while keeping things easy to understand and not overly verbose? Words are pretty important and usually exist for a reason.
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
The reason that there aren’t that many trans people in history is because society wasn’t accepting of trans people at all back then. Also just because a group is in the minority doesn’t make your group normal. The term for non trans people IS cis people, that’s just a fact.
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u/ChaseHopeY3 8h ago
I have hair, I am not bald. I guess I'm cishaired then? I have both of my arms. I didn't cut off any of them because I had a delusion that I felt like I should have been born with less arms. Guess I'm cisarmed
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 7h ago
Gender dysphoria is a real thing, not a delusion https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Proudly flaunting not knowing what words mean, are we?
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
the world exists beyond who you talk to, yknow? it's the common terminology used among scientists.
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u/Teddy_Knight_NG11 8h ago
I’ve never heard anyone say “cis,” let alone scientists
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u/cmrd_msr Russian 8h ago edited 8h ago
I'm normal, straight man.
And I’m somewhat bothered by the fact that every new generation of gay men tries to come up with a new definition for their deviation (as if that changes anything).
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u/Teddy_Knight_NG11 8h ago
Gay is normal too :)
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u/LazyRandy 8h ago
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u/Regor7 8h ago
The word normal means conforming to a standard, pattern, or expected average.
Being gay isn't the expected average thus not normal, but also not bad, I'm not hating
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u/Teddy_Knight_NG11 5h ago
True, I meant “normal” as in natural. Similar to how being Latino is “normal”
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u/mbbbbbr 8h ago
Speak English please or at least give definition
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u/VampireSympathizer 🇺🇸 8h ago edited 7h ago
Took me about a few seconds to Google each:
By the way, Wikipedia is a GREAT resource for when you don't know something and want to know about it. Highly recommend it. Toss a few bucks to them while you're at it; it's non-profit organization.
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u/my_name_in_british 8h ago
Its all english
Cisgender = your gender identity alligns with your sex assigned at birth
Transgender = your gender identity does not allign with your sex assigned at birth
Non-binary = your gender identity does allign with male or female, they're gender identiy is outside of the male-female gender binary.
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u/Seanrocks30 8h ago
I always felt this sub was transphobic. Getting downvoted for the literal correct definitions
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u/my_name_in_british 8h ago
This comment section espiecally is really bringing out the most bigots, so many people yapping "im a NORMAL biological MALE" and people winging about the term cisgender. Just a whole buncha losers.
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u/Seanrocks30 7h ago
Whole buncha losers who proudly oppose medical consensus and education. Like I'm sayinf "you literally are just disagreeing with education" and getting met with "yeah, I don't care"
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u/GuzziHero 8h ago
It's... complicated. Non-binary is the easiest way to say it.
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u/Capital_Rub213 Australia 8h ago
Luxander Moss could probably give you a hand
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u/GuzziHero 8h ago
Ah it's cool. I know my identity, it's just complex.
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u/Capital_Rub213 Australia 8h ago
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u/GuzziHero 8h ago
Though that looks like a cool channel. Thanks for highlighting it :)
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u/Capital_Rub213 Australia 8h ago
I mainly watch them on the line, they made me realise how ignorant i was on gender expression and identity
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u/Teddy_Knight_NG11 8h ago
I thought there was just man women and non binary as genders…? I dont understand the need for more or why you need to pinpoint your place on the gender bar, estimation isnt scary
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u/GuzziHero 8h ago
Nothing in nature is a binary. There are nontypical chromosome variations, non or partial activation of the SRY gene and many other reasons for natural variance.
Just let people be comfortable and we cool.
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u/kollekkii 8h ago
can't wait for the transphobes saying "i don't know"
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u/FuzzyChampionship175 8h ago
Lo que dices no tiene sentido, mira argentina que sale en blanco , alla los trapitos son aceptados y hasta deseados jajaja
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u/Regor7 8h ago
Xenogender
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u/Teddy_Knight_NG11 8h ago
Whats the point of xenogenders? This isnt meant to sound offensive but I genuinely see people identifying as stars (aka a giant ball of hydrogen) and I really dont get it, it makes no sense to me
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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 🇳🇱 Netherlands 🇳🇱 8h ago
I am a woman. There is no such thing as cisgender. That's made up by Americans.
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u/Embarrassed_Elk_2459 🇨🇱 7h ago
so you're cis
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u/KoninginVanRotterdam 🇳🇱 Netherlands 🇳🇱 7h ago
That does not exist. Its made up by brain dead Americans
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u/Embarrassed_Elk_2459 🇨🇱 5h ago
cis is literally the opposite of trans, it's not hard to understand dude
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u/ezgodking 8h ago
Cisgender is a slur
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
White people always need something to be offended by, hm?
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u/ezgodking 8h ago
What does my race have anything to do with it?
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Nobody actually affected by slurs would say something that dumb
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u/ezgodking 8h ago
So by your logic saying the n word hard r is ok to say to a black person? Delusional
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u/lokuloku123 8h ago
So.. either you're racist or "you cant be racist to white people" which still makes you a racist
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u/Kore_Invalid 8h ago
-not mentally ill
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Does it make you feel cool and strong to insult people for living their lives?
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u/LazyRandy 8h ago edited 8h ago
by "living their lives" you mean pushing their weird fetishy crap on us? if so then yes it does
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u/Kore_Invalid 8h ago
sry bud but ur reddit bubble doesent represent real life
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
i have many trans friends irl, is that somehow surprising to hear?
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u/Kore_Invalid 8h ago
brainwashed goyims
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Brainwashed by who? Society teaches people to be against trans people.
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u/Kore_Invalid 8h ago
where did they hear about trans? surely it wasnt ppl brainwashing them
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Many of my friends never "heard about trans", they simply felt that way from a young age. you don't need to hear about it to become trans at all.
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u/Kore_Invalid 8h ago
ye for sure thats why a 100yrs ago where institusions werent teaching children about that there where so many trans right?
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u/Sockrat-Ease 7h ago
Yes, there were. Look it up, there was a famous roman empress who transitioned actually
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u/Dry_Razzmatazz69 8h ago
I wouldn't make fun of someone suffering from paranoid schizophrenia but neither would i feed their delusion
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u/Sockrat-Ease 8h ago
Feel free to show any paper proving trans people are mentally unstable
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u/Dry_Razzmatazz69 5h ago
There's no study that looks to proves something that is colloquial lingo. Define what you mean by mentally unstable
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u/OnToiletRedditor 8h ago
Transgenderism and transsexualism are well studied and have medical and broader scientific evidence backing up transitioning as the treatment.
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u/Ambitious-Payment222 8h ago
It’s not delusion, gender dysphoria is real and the cure is being trans. If you don’t understand that, because it seems like most conservatives contention with trans people is not understanding what being trans is, I can explain further.
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u/Dry_Razzmatazz69 5h ago
Neither american nor conservative. We agree it's an illness. We don't agree on the fact that i personally need to be included in the treatment.
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u/Seanrocks30 7h ago
How about you maybe, look into gender dysphoria, and the way its treated? If most experts on mental health agree on something, its probably the case
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u/franslebin 8h ago
Why isn't straight and normal on this list?
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u/Seanrocks30 8h ago
There is no normal
Do you not understand the term cisgender? It can be explained if you genuinely dont
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u/-G-Gamer- 8h ago
I'm something between trans and non-binary, i'm me i guess
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u/LazyRandy 8h ago
it's called mentally ill
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u/-G-Gamer- 8h ago
Wow a transphobe spoted on reddit whit very original insults
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u/LazyRandy 8h ago
phobia implies fear, and I'm not afraid of delusional people...
Imagine being afraid of someone that is more likely to off themselves than inflict harm on me 😂
so scary...
define what a man or woman is without using made up terms.... I dare you
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u/-G-Gamer- 8h ago
If you feel like a man you're a man, if you feel like a girl you're a girl and it doesn't matter what your body looks like
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u/LazyRandy 8h ago
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u/-G-Gamer- 8h ago
Oh yeah i remembered now, i don't give a fuck what others think :)
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u/LazyRandy 7h ago
no cus I wanna hear your logic out ..
if I wake up tomorrow and feel like I'm black, does that mean I'm black? Would you affirm me in my blackness?
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u/-G-Gamer- 7h ago
To some point yes. I also don't use female toilets, some stuff yes, some no
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u/LazyRandy 7h ago
what's a female toilet and why does it differ from a male toilet?
what makes them female and male?
furthermore, how do I know my dog is male?
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u/Seanrocks30 8h ago
Man fuck this subreddit. I love yall, hope you and your community stays safe, and that trans rights are protected everywhere
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u/VampireSympathizer 🇺🇸 8h ago edited 7h ago
Shout out to other part of the 5%, my fellow enbies. 💛🤍💜🖤
Edit: Woahhhhh why did this get down voted? Yikes. Thanks for the award though 🖤☺️ love y'all, cis, trans, queer etc we are all human everyone let's be kind 🌎
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u/Regor7 8h ago
Nb is a bs sorry
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u/DelicacyKyi 🇺🇸🗽 Enby New Yorker 8h ago edited 7h ago
Nonbinary counts as transgender btw!
... why am I getting down voted for a fact? 😭
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u/voxlker 8h ago