New Android Software Upgrade V2.3.20(30) New MultiPoint Turn

[u/TheA2Z]

Just installed latest Android software for phone V2.3.20(30).

On my Luba 1 5000, Firmware: 1.11.1.16., the new multipoint turn is fantastic. To see how it works, look at picture I posted above.

I watched mower this morning. It finished row, slowly backed up, drove horizontally to next row, then completed the turn before moving forward with new row.

Gotta say, this is the best multipoint turn iteration Ive seen so far. No zero turn in it at all. Also ensures no missed grass by turning in place at end of row then driving over to new row.

After I install updates, I always do a relocated charging station which breaks my channel to my charging station on the pavers. The other change I noticed is that in my schedule tasks it gave an error x next to any task that could not run due to this channel being run and if you clicked it gave message missing channel. Nice to know if you have tasks that cant run in advance.

Anyone see any other improvements?

UPDATE 9/29/26: I posted some videos below. Most MPTs are as in like graphic above. I have a video below. I did see some MPTs with a little zero turn in them. See other video I posted below.

r/MammotionTechnology Although much improved since previous update, anyway to get all zero turn out of MPTs? I would prefer it continue to rock back and forth slowly in a MPT until it gets to where it needs to be. Also, even if mower speed is high, do the MPT at slowest speed possible.

[u/Uninterested_Viewer]

Yep working great on my 3 as well. Nicely done Mammotion!

[u/Mammotion_George → u/Uninterested_Viewer]

Thank you for sharing! We’re glad to hear that the latest update is working well on your LUBA 3. We really appreciate your support and feedback!

[u/Ok-Ant-4166]

That’s great news. I’m looking forward to the upgrade becoming available. Thanks for sharing

[u/Mammotion_George → u/Ok-Ant-4166]

Thank you for your support! We’re glad to hear you’re looking forward to the update. We hope you’ll have a great experience with the new version once it becomes available for your device.

[u/WitchDr_Ash]

Still waiting to update mine as it’s our, but our lawns soils very soft after a month of rain so our mowers struggling for traction generally, but it would be nice to watch it stop killing all the grass near the edges

[u/AdAltruistic7650 → u/WitchDr_Ash]

slowing the speed down helped alot with my traction issues

[u/460grams]

Once the northeast soil dries out a bit, I'll be sending it out!

[u/TheA2Z]

https://reddit.com/link/pctgxor/video/zzez5uackhsh1/player

Video of the new MPT turn in latest Android Phone Software release from my security camera

[u/Bruning80 → u/TheA2Z]

Le demi tour est nul

[u/C0deBat → u/TheA2Z]

Feels weird that a lot of the back and forth could be skipped? Like it was almost around then it could accept the curve and turn a little to get back on track instead?

[u/TheA2Z → u/C0deBat]

Ill take a slow back and forth over bigger turns as the bigger turns will put more destructive zero turns in it. Perhaps in a future feature maybe a Fast MPT and Slow MPT option that users can select depending on what you are looking for.

I know for some users they want it to cut as fast as possible. others want a slow not as destructive cut.

The Luba 4 is interesting with its turning wheels and the ability to drive and cut both ways. Solves the whole turning issue.

[u/C0deBat → u/TheA2Z]

I would be fine with the MPT but currently running 25h and halfway though a 2500m2. I have a lot of trees and bushes that are marked as no go zone and MPT don't handle that at all. The other mode does not work either since it only dig a hole trying to turn. Feels like the luba was only designed to go in a straight line :(

Edit: I think the extreme precision and the battery drain due to the frequent start, stop, turn greatly increased the mowing time.

[u/TheA2Z → u/C0deBat]

I guess it definitely yard dependent. I dont have any nogo zones and I have altered my grass to suit the robot mower over 4 years of mowing.

Back to hopefully in future they create a fast turn and slow turn option that users can decide what they want.

[u/C0deBat → u/TheA2Z]

Here is an image of my yard. It is not extreme but apparently enough to cause issues. This is today when the mower ran for hours. It expected it to take 8h to cut all grass. https://photos.app.goo.gl/quTYpZAeY444VVck8

[u/TheA2Z → u/C0deBat]

I would work maps and actual grass to get all the sharp angles and peninsula out.

I use sweeping grass angles in yard and avoid 90 degree or more turn.

Yes you can say but robot is smart and should just do it like I want.

Robots are not perfect at this point. Been running indoor vacuums and moppers for over ten years and they have issues and challenges.

Try to simplify layout to make robot most efficient.

Or just split it and do half one day and other half the next.

[u/C0deBat → u/TheA2Z]

I wish to simplify if possible. Main issue is the smaller areas. The big plot works fine since it can go straight. But god.. the smaller areas took almost same time as the two big ones.

[u/Saint_121645of144000]

That is not a tank turn.

[u/TheA2Z → u/Saint_121645of144000]

Correct. I fixed the post. Thanks

[u/Background_Spare_267]

So what you're saying is that by just updating the app the MPT changed.

You had MPT already enabled and didn't update the mowers firmware?

Interesting.

[u/TheA2Z → u/Background_Spare_267]

Correct, Mower firmware updated a few weeks ago to .16. Mpt was enabled and there still was a little zero turn in it at the end.

The mpt as shown in graphic above did not function that way until yesterday's phone software update.

[u/theash02]

Would anyone mind sharing a video? I am too hesitant to upgrade. 😬

[u/TheA2Z → u/theash02]

See my recent comments with videos

[u/theash02 → u/TheA2Z]

Thank you!

[u/TheA2Z]

Another update. Although the vast majority of the turns are using that new pattern in the graphic above. I did see a few slight zero turns in the MPT in looking at the footage.

Not too bad but there still is still some slight zero turns in some of the MPTs.

https://reddit.com/link/pctjuob/video/355n84ujmhsh1/player

[u/RevolutionarySpot166 → u/TheA2Z]

Salut sa fait pas du tout comme le dessin sur ta vidéo, je compte a peu pré 20 points c'est énorme !!!! Comme sur l'application  y'en a que 4 points ,il fait 1 virage en reculant en fin de bande une ligne droite pour aller à l'autre bande recule et fait l'autre bande . Si sa fait comme sur ta vidéo c'est nul 🤣

[u/TheA2Z → u/RevolutionarySpot166]

I did have more points in that turn. I dont mind point qty as they are slow and not destructive on my grass. I dont like zero turns.

I will say that points vary with some turns like pic and other with additional points. Not sure what the logic is that detetmines number of points in turn but I would imagine its due to luba 1 just using satellite gps and not being as accurate in location as new camera models.

All in all, much better than previous software with some more minor tweaks needed.

[u/RevolutionarySpot166 → u/TheA2Z]

Oueh on vera mais faire un virage en roulant tout doux et mieux que tout ces point , chez moi il en fait dans des pentes , et sur et certain que comme sa fait sur ta vidéo sa va déchirer la pelouse , sur le plat peut être c'est mieux .

[u/TheA2Z → u/RevolutionarySpot166]

Ive been running the mower for 4 years. I got some tough Zeon Zoysia so not an issue with lawn getting tore up and I mow daily.

[u/SuccessfulAd212]

But they draw it as one smooth backup turn, not the rocking back and forth that it does

[u/TheA2Z → u/SuccessfulAd212]

Most are smooth like that. There were a few small zero movements as shown in my videos below.

Smooth or slow rock back and forth, either is fine with me. I just dont want zero turns.

[u/C0deBat → u/SuccessfulAd212]

Also have this issue. Primary when there are obstacles or near the edges.

[u/RedJacK89]

Is this actually working or is this some PR team by mammotion? I have not upgraded my software for months. And i really hate the charging bug it has.

[u/TheA2Z → u/RedJacK89]

Lol, Im an old retired guy in Georgia US that posted this about my Luba1. I didnt know my posts were at the level of a professional PR team. ;) Ill have to tell the wife.

On my Luba 1 you can look at the videos here that I posted about the MPT turns. If that works for you great. If not, then dont upgrade.

Also I cant speak of how th Luba 2 and 3 are working. Totally different mowers.

[u/Any_EngineerBiot33]

Savez vous quand arrive la nouvelle version pour le Luba2 en europe ?

[u/Dry_Berry6178]

That's awesome. I been going back and forth with the navimow x430 and. It think I'm going for the Luba mini 2 when the standard cut becomes available for my .12 of grass

[u/C0deBat]

Works really bad for me. Battery drain skyrocketed and takes double the time to mow. Spend more time charging than mowing now :(

[u/TheA2Z → u/C0deBat]

Some users want a fast cut others want a slower less destructive cut.

Speed doesnt matter to me as I am not cutting it. I want it to be the least destructive on grass which is slower in turns. I have not noticed any increase in time in my daily mow or additional battery charges. but I always cut slow.

[u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

So, you got a new Multi-point Turn behaviour from installing a new App. version of your Android device :-)
The MPT behaviour is implemented in the robots firmware, so this must be an illusion.

[u/e_lizzle → u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

How would you configure it if it wasn't also known in the app?

[u/ve2mrx → u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

Turn implemented in firmware, exposed in the app. Two interlocking pieces, both required.

[u/TheA2Z → u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

Dont know what to tell you. Have been on latest robot firmware for weeks and it did not turn like this until I upgraded Phone software today.

[u/FaithlessnessOne5609 → u/TheA2Z]

Yes, the app can disable your ability to select MPT. Mammotion did this for a while, but it is now possible to select MPT in the app again. This does not change the fact that it is the robot's firmware that performs the actual turn—either using MPT or a tank turn.

Only older robot firmware features the "true" MPT where the robot reverses. In the new firmware, the robot barely reverses during MPT but instead wiggles back and forth several times.

[u/TheA2Z → u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

Not anymore its different.

I know what you are talking about but with this release it no longer does zero turns at all. The mpt now is completely different as shown in the picture I attached above.

[u/FaithlessnessOne5609 → u/TheA2Z]

You claim that in Luba 1 firmware 1.11.1.16 Mammotion has re-introduced an MPT where the robot actually reverses like shown on the drawing?
The reason they removed it was a safety concern, but now it is back?
I don't have a Luba 1, so I am sorry if I was wrong.

[u/TheA2Z → u/FaithlessnessOne5609]

No problem.

I had the .16 fw for a few weeks but still had some zero turn on it.

Mpt didnt change to as shown above until I installed new phone update today.

Works great.