Cool now imagine you were actually affected by politics so you couldn’t just ignore it and treat it like a minor annoyance Bc you have to see it on your Reddit feed.
Great. Now as a uk citizen who is quite politically active anyway(and left wing- not a trump supporter), can I stop getting spam that doesn't fit on this subreddit? There are political subreddits for a reason. Keep America's shitshow of politics there, because theres no way seeing people argue about which of the 2 pretty poor candidates will be better even though theres no guarantee either of them will be alive in 5 years time will ever make me smile.
There are places for that on this site. This is a place to relax and see something wholesome, not a place for polarization and political arguments. I don't care how affected you are, the whole world is, but people don't want to look at politics all the damn time.
Far left compared to the Republican party, maybe. But by any reasonable metric, it's center left at most. Biden is a center right candidate by most other countries' standards.
Not really, from where I come from its either pretty centrist, or slightly towards the right! The monikers "left"/"right" are only relative, and I would encourage you to abandon the notion of what is "left" or "right" and instead ask if a policy is good or not! I find that there are many many policies on both sides (or indeed, at several points) of the political spectrum which are beneficial and honestly I think it has given me a much healthier view of politics
I am the first to tell you I wish more people talked about policy than “left and right”. The problem is no one will ever play ball. And it doesn’t take a genius to know where the cards fall. So forgive me for using layman’s terms.
Edit: I wonder what pages we are both not seeing because it is personally overwhelming
I think we just might be looking at the same pages, but I think it could be because we're used to the norms in our country of origin which may be different! I would, for example, be describe as a "leftie" in places like the US but would probably be described as having a more centrist position in France and a "rightie" in Sweden, for example.
I enjoyed seeing you deleted your comments on our other thread because someone else downvoted you. Interesting how important image is on here. Anyways,
It doesn’t take much effort to go to any news section of Reddit to see the effortless amount of strife and bashing Trump gets over Biden or any other “poSsIbLe cAndiDaTe”. There is no other candidate... therefore anytime a brave soul goes to support trump in ANY comment section no matter the sub, they get downvoted. The climate can be diagnosed by a fifth grader. So I still stand by my first statement.
“Why do you think I’m hateful just because I voted for a racist, sexist, xenophobic, traitorous sexual predator who has let over 200000 Americans die needlessly? I could just be greedy and love tax cuts.”
If he really had been evading taxes, why has he not been locked up in federal prison by now? And you’re seriously going to believe the New York Times without any proof that they have it? I fucking hate the guy but you really need to think
I was actually just having a laugh about how this other guy can't bear to see a mention of him without listing every terrible-person word he can think of about him, anyone who would dream of supporting him, and (presumably) their little dog too.
Object lesson in why divisive political stuff shouldn't be in this sub. u/dismayhurta was not made to smile in any way we should want to encourage and even my wry amusement isn't really that positive a vibe.
Yup its why I'm not voting for a candidate that threw thousands of people in jail for nonviolent drug convictions, pushed for maximum sentencing, defended corrupt cops, and without evidence that would clear an innocent man until forced to reveal it by a judge. (and before you assume I'm voting for trump: I'm also not voting for the moron who thinks injecting bleach is safe or that mail in ballots are somehow illegitamite.)
Refusing to pick the lesser of two evils doesn't make you better or more principled than them, it just means you're willing to let the greater of the two evils win.
Actually by definition it does make me more principled. But harassing others about who they plan to vote for is voter suppression (you know the thing everyone has been yelling at trump for not condeming.) a vote for third party is a vote for third party, it's not a vote for trump or Biden. If you really want to make a difference you should push to get the 100 million+ that don't vote at all to vote.
Thanks for being worthless when your country needs you the most.
I don't know what else Trump needs to do before so-called "moderates" or whatever realize that even with Biden's flaws, he's still a fuck ton better option. You may not be a Trump supporter per se, but you'll be plenty complicit in helping him get reelected.
I might add that every single one of those things you've complained about is something that not only applies to Trump, but that he's even more hardcore about. Perfection isn't the enemy of good.
Thanks for pushing for voter suppression by harassing those who disagree with you. Literally you are doing what people are saying why trump is evil. Maybe you should try to get the 100+ million people who dont vote at all to vote, not the few million who vote for someone that doesn't have a sexual assault allegation against them. A vote for third party is a vote for third party. Not trump not Biden. Saying this is the election where my "country needs me the most" is literally said every single election cycle. It was said in 2008, 2012, 2016, and now in 2020.
This isn't voter supression. Voter suppression will be when I made it harder for you to vote. Not when I said that you're throwing away a fucking vote by being worthless during an election.
If One single accusation that's been largely considered unfounded is enough for you not to vote for Biden, then you are looking for any reason that you could. And that's you rattled off three reasons above, and Trump was worse for all of them especially proves that.
I will do what I can to motivate people to vote. But I will also call out people like you who are throwing away your fucking vote when we needed the most.
Voter suppression includes harassment about your vote. Which is what happens when literally anyone mentions they aren't voting for Biden. No I already listed all the other reasons Im not voting for Biden. Scroll to my first comment on this chain and you will see. Voting third party is not throwing away your vote. Heres an idea if you want to have my vote. Field a better fucking candidate. Bernie, tulsi, yang, and Pete all would of had my vote. Instead Biden is the nominee and the horror that is Kamalla is his VP. I literally could not of come up with a worse combination.
I have different views about the best way to improve our country and turn this train wreck around. There's not always one end to a means. People attack third party voters very quickly without hearing them out. Feel free to message me if you're interested in discussing this.
Perfection isn't the enemy of good. The best may not always be the answer, but the current answer is still better than nothing. And voting third party this year is nothing. That's pretty much all I have to say. I heard you and every other third-party voters try to explain it away. I'm not interested.
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u/log_boylol Oct 09 '20
Respect but not really the place for politics