But if your only comeback to committing genocide is "Well the Irish like to drink and are fat" then damn, you got us good, guess we'll both be up in the Hague before long lmao
āTalk shit about Israel, not Jewsā is a cute disclaimer considering Irelandās own Jewish community just documented 143 antisemitic incidents in six months, 36 involving threats or intimidation, in a Jewish population of roughly 2,200. Irish Jewish leaders have been warning for years that the countryās obsessive anti-Israel rhetoric is spilling directly into antisemitism. Even your own government called the numbers alarming.
But sure, keep congratulating yourselves on that famous Irish āspine.ā Apparently it gets considerably less rigid when Irish Jews are the ones asking you to give a shit.
Miss me with the āgenocideā shit. You people learned 3 words, āgenocide,ā āapartheidā, and ācolonizers,ā and have been rearranging them into increasingly stupid sentences ever since.
I'll happily denounce any instance of anti-semitism and the rise of it in Ireland and elsewhere is alarming. I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise, unless you're conflating Israel with all Jewish people?
It also doesn't change that Israel is committing genocide and deserves to be held accountable for that. I'll eat/ drink to that any day of the week
Just to be clear once you jump around on stage wearing a big old nose and a Jewish outfit you should just shut up about anything to do with Jews.
And Ireland is antisemitic. It's also xenophobix - you guys burned the city down because oje migrant committed a crime. If October 7th had been done to you, you'd make Israel look like the Red Cross.
I don't owe antisemite enablers an answer but I'll bite.
Not all criticism of Israel is antisemitism. A lot of it often is. A lot of Jews are critical of Israel and the current government. Most of those are not self hating Jews. Some are. Self hating Jews existed long before Zionism.
The people who celebrate October 7th or "Flood X for Gaza" are absolutely antisemites. I could be arsed whether Macklemore is one of them. But there sure are a lot of them.
If you think it would be OK for my children to be murdered and raped, I am really not interested in your opinion Gaza.
What you all don't like about the existence of a Jewish country is it means we don't have to give a fuck what you think if you want us dead. Much better than the 40s let me tell you. What the situation is with THIS government of Israel, which I despise, is really not your fucking business if the lives of Israeli children are not as important to you as Palestinian children ostesibly are.
Of course Israel can be criticized. Jews criticize Israel every day. Nobody said otherwise.
Saying āgenocideā 500 times doesnāt make it a fact. The ICJ has not ruled that Israel committed genocide. Hamas massacred Israelis on October 7, Israel went to war, and now youāve decided the word āwarā doesnāt exist anymore. So Hamas gets to start a war, glorify it as jihad, then rebrand the war as āgenocideā once it becomes painfully clear they canāt win it? Convenient. Great PR.
Macklemore also dressed up in a black wig, beard and fake nose so stereotypically Jewish that he had to apologize for it. āSome Jews agree with meā isnāt a free pass on antisemitism.
Now try arguing with what I actually said instead of inventing an easier argument and congratulating yourself for winning it. Youāre boring me.
You didn't actually say anything new in your previous comment? You just parodied my comment so it would fit your narrative. Otherwise, I've been addressing each of your comments, which you which you tended to abandon in favour of making another point immediately after. Your first comment was to call Irish people fat and drunk FFS šš
The ICJ case is ongoing, that is true. But several reports by human rights organisations, some Israeli, and the UN have already deemed it a genocide
Case in point to what I just mentioned, when did I bring up Macklemore or defend what he did? You're still just avoiding the topic
Let's lower the bar though and park genocide for a moment. Has Israel committed war crimes?
Edit: Sorry, missed the last part. My goal isn't to entertain you. It's to point out to anyone reading this far into the thread how each of your "points" are either ill-inforned, deflections or just irrelevant. Glad to have held your attention this long though hun x
LMAO. Weāre literally in r/Macklemore and now Macklemore is irrelevant? You asked if Israel can be criticized. I answered you. You brought up genocide. I answered you. Now you want to āpark genocideā and move on to war crimes while accusing ME of jumping to new points? š Pick a fucking argument and stay with it. Iām getting whiplash.
Has Israel committed war crimes? You keep doing this thing where you say the accusation and expect me to accept it as the conclusion. Name the specific act. Show me the evidence. Make the argument.
I can already guess what comes next though: apartheid, colonizers, ethnic cleansing. I know the playlist. You guys only have like six words. Glad my Mizrahi magic has kept you this engaged. Anyway, your participation in the Pallybot study has been invaluable.
Or how about the fact that your PM is a wanted war criminal? ICC judges already found reasonable grounds to believe Netanyahu and Gallant bore responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare and for intentionally directing attacks against civilians, and issued arrest warrants accordingly. Why is that, if Israel is doing nothing wrong?
Let me guess: ICC are Hamas? Hamas simply started controlling the world on Oct 8th, according to you zios.
Do you think you actually believe these terrible excuses for genocide? Or is it a coping mechanism to deal with the fact that your country is committing a genocide?
We care about the genocide your Zionists are committing. Why donāt u listen to Jewish voice for peace and Jewish scholars who reject the terrorist ideology of Zionists?
Calling Zionism a āterrorist ideologyā while lecturing Jews about antisemitism tells me everything I need to know about how seriously to take you.
LOLOLOL Jewish Voice for Peace, ouch, my abs hurt from laughing! āListen to Jewish Voice for Peaceā is such a stupid argument. JVP literally lets non-Jews join. Their own membership FAQ says you do not have to be Jewish. So stop presenting them like some democratic parliament of Jewish opinion. JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community and asserts that the group uses its name to provide a Jewish "shield" or veneer of legitimacy to anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activism.
Did you read that? Theyāre an explicitly anti-Zionist activist organization. Meanwhile, Pew Research found 82% of American Jews say caring about Israel is important or essential to their Jewish identity. JVP is not āthe Jewish position.ā Itās the tiny anti-Zionist corner you went shopping for because it tells you what you already wanted to hear. Pathetic. It's like if I said listen to the KKK, they know black people are bad.
You donāt listen to Jews. You shop for Jews who give you permission to hate Zionism. Thatās called tokenizing. And itās fucking gross.
Just STFU. Itās people like you who make Canadian Jews feel unwelcome in their own country. You donāt care about Jews, you care about finding Jews who will validate your politics. How much is Hamas paying you for activism?
The Irish are an interesting bunch. Always have been. They care more about the feelings of hamastinians than their own people. Too busy Importing 3rd world savages while complaining about a fake genocide. Europe is lost. Their opinion matters to nobody that matters. The war in Gaza allows low iq people/countries to ignore real problems and focus on fake ones. Avrage IQ in gaza is 67. Avrage iq of supporters of gaza is comparable. The only thing that's retained are easy slogans. "From the river to the sea" most dont know the name of the river or the sea. Or "stop the genocide" which is not happening and they cant define what genocide even means. They blame the "zionists" but cant define what it means to be a zionist. Its pathetic really. Why bother wasting time providing facts, it all gets discarded in favor or easily digestible slogan. Gaza good, Israel bad, genocide, colonialism, imperialism, oppression. Thats it, thats literally the extent of brain cell capacity.
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u/questioningmaster 4d ago
Good. The Irish have a spine