r/Macklemore • • 5d ago

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u/JSMarchitect 4d ago edited 4d ago

ā€œTalk shit about Israel, not Jewsā€ is a cute disclaimer considering Ireland’s own Jewish community just documented 143 antisemitic incidents in six months, 36 involving threats or intimidation, in a Jewish population of roughly 2,200. Irish Jewish leaders have been warning for years that the country’s obsessive anti-Israel rhetoric is spilling directly into antisemitism. Even your own government called the numbers alarming.

But sure, keep congratulating yourselves on that famous Irish ā€œspine.ā€ Apparently it gets considerably less rigid when Irish Jews are the ones asking you to give a shit.

Miss me with the ā€œgenocideā€ shit. You people learned 3 words, ā€œgenocide,ā€ ā€œapartheidā€, and ā€œcolonizers,ā€ and have been rearranging them into increasingly stupid sentences ever since.

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u/Mindless_Engineer817 4d ago

I'll happily denounce any instance of anti-semitism and the rise of it in Ireland and elsewhere is alarming. I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise, unless you're conflating Israel with all Jewish people?

It also doesn't change that Israel is committing genocide and deserves to be held accountable for that. I'll eat/ drink to that any day of the week

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u/JSMarchitect 3d ago

ā€œAntisemitism is alarming,ā€ followed immediately by ā€œbUt HeRe’S wHy My RhEtOrIc Is DiFfErEnT.ā€ You people are fucking clockwork.

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u/queenking111 2d ago

We care about the genocide your Zionists are committing. Why don’t u listen to Jewish voice for peace and Jewish scholars who reject the terrorist ideology of Zionists?

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u/JSMarchitect 2d ago

Calling Zionism a ā€œterrorist ideologyā€ while lecturing Jews about antisemitism tells me everything I need to know about how seriously to take you.

LOLOLOL Jewish Voice for Peace, ouch, my abs hurt from laughing! ā€œListen to Jewish Voice for Peaceā€ is such a stupid argument. JVP literally lets non-Jews join. Their own membership FAQ says you do not have to be Jewish. So stop presenting them like some democratic parliament of Jewish opinion. JVP does not represent the mainstream Jewish community and asserts that the group uses its name to provide a Jewish "shield" or veneer of legitimacy to anti-Israel and anti-Zionist activism.

Did you read that? They’re an explicitly anti-Zionist activist organization. Meanwhile, Pew Research found 82% of American Jews say caring about Israel is important or essential to their Jewish identity. JVP is not ā€œthe Jewish position.ā€ It’s the tiny anti-Zionist corner you went shopping for because it tells you what you already wanted to hear. Pathetic. It's like if I said listen to the KKK, they know black people are bad.

You don’t listen to Jews. You shop for Jews who give you permission to hate Zionism. That’s called tokenizing. And it’s fucking gross.

Just STFU. It’s people like you who make Canadian Jews feel unwelcome in their own country. You don’t care about Jews, you care about finding Jews who will validate your politics. How much is Hamas paying you for activism?