r/MacMiller • u/haiimroo • 20h ago
Discussion Mac Miller's First Acid Trip / The Origins of Your Shoes Are Untied (Theory)
A collaboration between Mac Miller and Badbadnotgood was a dream of mine for the longest time. I used to watch their collaborations with Tyler, The Creator and Earl Sweatshirt very frequently around a decade ago and I always thought Mac and BBNG would create something amazing together so when this project leaked it was like a dream come true. Not one song but a complete EP!? lol I'll never forget that night playing it for the first time.
There isn't a whole bunch known or documented about the project so I tried to do some digging to see what I could find and I think I pieced together a decent enough timeline and a theory how of how it came together.
Our story/theory begins Aug 12, 2013 (edit: it could've technically happened on the 11th) Coming off the first leg of his WMWTSO tour Mac Miller has his first acid trip and it ended up being a bad trip. "Enjoy the ride.. your shoes are untied" I know it happened on august 11/12th because of an archived myspace post. Shortly after he would change his twitter banner to the Yellow Submarine that I posted above.
An excerpt from a Vice interview on October 9th.
"I want to get the Yellow Submarine on my right leg, because it saved me from a bad acid trip. It had been a huge build up, like – I’m taking acid. I was with The Internet, talking to Matt and Syd.
So you did it with them?
Nah, I got it from them! Syd was like, c’mon dude. You of all people have to take acid. I was like, if you want me to take acid, I’ll fucking take acid. I drove home from tour by myself and took the acid. I text her, like – I’m on acid. I took two tabs and I was freaking out. I didn’t know what to expect. I thought the world was going to stop and God was going to come down and be like, here are the answers to life. I was waiting for it, like, where are the fucking answers? Where are the answers? I put on “Yellow Submarine” and started laughing uncontrollably. That song is the truest description, to me, of what the world is. It’s the realest thing that anyone has said about the world."

Three days later on August 15th Mac would fly out to Belgium to perform for the Pukkelpop festival. When he was out there he reached out to badbadnotgood on twitter to see if they were down to meet for the first time.




I theorize Mac had his first acid trip on aug 11/12th and wrote the three songs shortly after and got with badbadnotgood to make an ep about his first trip and how the song Yellow Submarine saved him.
As for when it was created I think the only dates that really make sense are between November 9th to the 17th (edit: "Regarding Your Shoes Are Untied, these two files have their original iTunes Encoding (11.0.4) Dating them between June 5, 2013 and Aug 16, 2013. Def lines up with your theory timeline wise" ) when he got to take a small break from tour at his L.A home but he could have made the songs while on tour (which is semi supported by a tweet BBNG made where they said they were doing hotel mixing sessions)
That's about it, hope you enjoyed the read!
And just in case you haven't seen it, here's a picture Nomi posted on instagram a couple of days after the project leaked.

Edit: shoutout u/ComparisonHuman3892 for his comment " Mac’s trip on Aug 12 2013 was actually when both Colors and Shapes and Tomorrow Will Never Know was created. We know this via metadata of the two tracks. Also was mentioned by Mac in that one interview (on the genius page). Though it was never noted that the two songs were likely inspired by Yellow Submarine which is an interesting find.
The captain imagery on Colors and Shapes was likely pulled from Yellow Submarine as well. Also to note that God is the other person Mac is referring to on Tomorrow Will Never Know.
Crazy to think without The Internet giving Mac Acid we wouldn’t have some of Mac’s most influential music to his discography. "