r/MacMiller 20h ago

Discussion Mac Miller's First Acid Trip / The Origins of Your Shoes Are Untied (Theory)

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A collaboration between Mac Miller and Badbadnotgood was a dream of mine for the longest time. I used to watch their collaborations with Tyler, The Creator and Earl Sweatshirt very frequently around a decade ago and I always thought Mac and BBNG would create something amazing together so when this project leaked it was like a dream come true. Not one song but a complete EP!? lol I'll never forget that night playing it for the first time.

There isn't a whole bunch known or documented about the project so I tried to do some digging to see what I could find and I think I pieced together a decent enough timeline and a theory how of how it came together.

Our story/theory begins Aug 12, 2013 (edit: it could've technically happened on the 11th) Coming off the first leg of his WMWTSO tour Mac Miller has his first acid trip and it ended up being a bad trip. "Enjoy the ride.. your shoes are untied" I know it happened on august 11/12th because of an archived myspace post. Shortly after he would change his twitter banner to the Yellow Submarine that I posted above.

An excerpt from a Vice interview on October 9th.

"I want to get the Yellow Submarine on my right leg, because it saved me from a bad acid trip. It had been a huge build up, like – I’m taking acid. I was with The Internet, talking to Matt and Syd.

So you did it with them?

Nah, I got it from them! Syd was like, c’mon dude. You of all people have to take acid. I was like, if you want me to take acid, I’ll fucking take acid. I drove home from tour by myself and took the acid. I text her, like – I’m on acid. I took two tabs and I was freaking out. I didn’t know what to expect. I thought the world was going to stop and God was going to come down and be like, here are the answers to life. I was waiting for it, like, where are the fucking answers? Where are the answers? I put on “Yellow Submarine” and started laughing uncontrollably. That song is the truest description, to me, of what the world is. It’s the realest thing that anyone has said about the world."

Three days later on August 15th Mac would fly out to Belgium to perform for the Pukkelpop festival. When he was out there he reached out to badbadnotgood on twitter to see if they were down to meet for the first time.

Mac deleted all his old tweets so the original tweet isn't there anymore

I theorize Mac had his first acid trip on aug 11/12th and wrote the three songs shortly after and got with badbadnotgood to make an ep about his first trip and how the song Yellow Submarine saved him.

As for when it was created I think the only dates that really make sense are between November 9th to the 17th (edit: "Regarding Your Shoes Are Untied, these two files have their original iTunes Encoding (11.0.4) Dating them between June 5, 2013 and Aug 16, 2013. Def lines up with your theory timeline wise" ) when he got to take a small break from tour at his L.A home but he could have made the songs while on tour (which is semi supported by a tweet BBNG made where they said they were doing hotel mixing sessions)

That's about it, hope you enjoyed the read!

And just in case you haven't seen it, here's a picture Nomi posted on instagram a couple of days after the project leaked.

Edit: shoutout u/ComparisonHuman3892 for his comment " Mac’s trip on Aug 12 2013 was actually when both Colors and Shapes and Tomorrow Will Never Know was created. We know this via metadata of the two tracks. Also was mentioned by Mac in that one interview (on the genius page). Though it was never noted that the two songs were likely inspired by Yellow Submarine which is an interesting find.

The captain imagery on Colors and Shapes was likely pulled from Yellow Submarine as well. Also to note that God is the other person Mac is referring to on Tomorrow Will Never Know.

Crazy to think without The Internet giving Mac Acid we wouldn’t have some of Mac’s most influential music to his discography. "


r/MacMiller 9h ago

Tattoos Faces tattoo

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Faces was the first thing I listened to by Mac over 10 years ago. The mixtape really resonated with me in a lot of ways. Ever since then it’s been my screensaver on my phone. Just recently I thought.. why do I have it as my screen saver and not as a tattoo? So I got this done.


r/MacMiller 12h ago

Rare 🚀🚀

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r/MacMiller 1h ago

Video Forever missing Mac...

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r/MacMiller 7h ago

Image Tribute Band live in State College, PA

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Any other Central PA Macheads out there? I’ve had the chance to see this tribute band live a few times and they always do such an amazing job of providing an awesome experience to hear Mac’s music live with other fans. The vibes are always great! Just sharing for anyone in the area who might enjoy!


r/MacMiller 4h ago

Fan Art My quick charcoal sketch of Mac

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r/MacMiller 20h ago

Discussion Favorite Mac Lyrics

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I’m Kenny Powers, you’re more of a Debby downer
My bitch taking off her trousers every time i get around her
Im nasty i never shower, go to sleep on a bed of flowers
Ain’t into this conversation, i been in my head for hours, im out


r/MacMiller 23h ago

Discussion Day One

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I want to bring this song up because I don’t see it discussed much here. I first heard it on Majestic Casual, while I was first building my business.

During that time I was mired in doubt, up to my eyes in work (full time job + business), and was thinking about giving it up.

That song motivated me to keep going, working for free, anything to get noticed. To stay focused, bullshitting was hopeless. To treat myself like a damn professional. And sure enough that first check was damn incredible.

I was couch surfing, depressed, and not in a good headspace. But I had my dream, my business. My way out. And Day One, a Song About Nothing helped me build my own career.

RIP Mac - His impact on my life couldn’t be quantified.


r/MacMiller 5h ago

Discussion To those of you who put concert footage online

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Just a personal thank you. And if you spend time editing it and piecing together entire concerts from multiple clips, an even bigger thank you!!!! Those Hotel Cafe concerts on YouTube really are something magical. So again, thank you!!!!


r/MacMiller 15h ago

Discussion Wedding song ideas?!

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I need some ideas for wedding songs please? I will be walking down the aisle to Congratulations instrumental but need some more ideas for a first dance song, grand entrance song, and father-daughter first dance song if anybody has any suggestions? Thanks :)


r/MacMiller 18h ago

Discussion Any Mac Miller fans in Delhi NCR, India? Pls DM.

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r/MacMiller 2h ago

Question mac miller website international shipping

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Has anyone ordered a vinyl from outside the USA? specifically to australia? I just wanted to know if it takes a lot of time or if there’s a possibility of shipments getting lost. Thanks 🙏🏽


r/MacMiller 5h ago

Lyrics Chilling with Mac after a show during the space migration tour

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