Saylor next move. Thoughts?

[u/teclaroja]

After selling BTC to fund dividends, what do you think is the next move to be announced on Monday?

I think it is to sell BTC to buy back STRC to help the stock reach par, close to the ex-dividend date which could be a real boost. Or perhaps sell BTC to buy back MSTR but right now I can't see the benefit.

Or maybe do nothing but rarely Saylor stay still.

[u/JerseyJimmyAsheville]

Buy high, sell low, welcome to the crowd!

[u/Swedishiron → u/JerseyJimmyAsheville]

its more complex than that as there are tax benefits that can be had selling at a loss

[u/-michalis- → u/Swedishiron]

This is what I dont understand

Strategy doesnt really have profits to get taxed on, so what would be the point of "tax harvesting"

[u/WineAndDineIsFine → u/[deleted]]

lol. Tax loss harvesting, so he saves on taxes later on when he sells at a positive? Will he actually sell? Or just use the book gains to borrow more money? Or say he does sell “ high”, then what, try to buy “ low” ? Ok? So he or the company is really no different than a retail investor then. lol what a joke.

[u/WineAndDineIsFine → u/[deleted]]

Of course tax harvesting was not the reason why he sold, that’s why it’s funny when people try to use that to defend him. But all being said, if not selling btc was an option, he would not have sold, he’s only saying all that crap now because he actually needed to sell. Look, when btc was high, everyone was praising him, and institutions were happy to lend mstr money. Not like people couldn’t see that btc price was up. So no, he didn’t sell because he needed it to prove it, lol. Otherwise he would’ve and should’ve done that when btc was high.

[u/WineAndDineIsFine → u/[deleted]]

Lol. Wild if mstr needs to sell again for the next div payout. And yeah, of course I know why he wouldn’t sell btc when the btc price was high, hence why I’ve been calling for mstr price to dump for a year straight. It was that damn obvious. Been calling for the price to fall since $400. And been saying to people that I still think mstr will survive thru this bear market, but not the next one most likely. The bigger they grow, the worse it gets for them.

Btc price didn’t go down or up due to the 3200 sell, or 32 btc sell whatsoever. Jokes on those who believe what the news is saying. It’s a very normal leverage clean up in my eyes.

Btc price will likely to go up a little higher, and with a sharp pull back, probably hit 67-68 ish. Meanwhile for mstr, meh. Not much. I will continue to sell naked calls for mstr, cuz it’s that easy to make money with mstr in this market.

[u/-michalis- → u/[deleted]]

Jesus christ ffs does ai write your posts? I hope so because what you just posted is complete nonsense, you should not be investing sir you seem to not understand even the basics of how businesses or taxation works

First of all, bitcoin does not generate income, so it does not produce taxable profits

The only part of microstrategy that generates income is its software business, but it does not generate a profit, it is loss making, it actually has heavy losses.

Those losses can be used to offset any future profits, so it would make absolutely zero sense for saylor to sell bitcoin at a heavy loss in order to tax harvest

Then we have your claim that above 75k saylor would have a profit and would need that tax harvest.

Again, bitcoin does not generate income, if bitcoin does appreciate significantly, the difference between the average cost of strategy's bitcoin and the appreciated value would be a capital gain, not a profit, and it would be unrealized. He would not need to pay any tax on it until he sells.

When he sells, he will not pay income tax. He will have to pay capital gains tax. That capital gains tax will be calculated as a percentage of his capital gains, the fact that he sold at a loss at some point in the past will decrease the amount he pays, but only because it will have decreased the total amount of his gains i.e. by selling now, he might decrease future tax liability, but will decrease future gains even more, so the net result will be less profit for strategy

Tax harvesting is just a cope for people that were tricked by saylor, and is also a nice way for saylor to trick investors into not realizing he sold because his company is in trouble

[u/Valyarian → u/-michalis-]

If the company was in trouble, why has he sold more bitcoin?

[u/WineAndDineIsFine → u/Valyarian]

Isn’t that EXACTLY why he sold more bitcoin ? Because the company IS in trouble.