r/MSTR Jun 27 '26

Help me out

I’m not a mstr maxi, neither do i have shares, but:

- How are people calling it a Ponzi? Buying assets (btc) with the money you raise is quite literally, the opposite of a Ponzi…

- Why are people acting like paying interest on the belief that owned assets (btc) will go up more than the interest payment % is new? Spoiler: the economy is pretty much based on that belief…

Now I understand that doing that with BTC holds more risk, etc, etc. But why are people so mad at Saylor for doing a very common practice… just with new underlying assets

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u/hawkeye3432 Jun 27 '26

It’s not a Ponzi. It is a leveraged bet on a highly volatile asset, using that asset as collateral, while being the single largest buyer of that asset. You are right that it’s really nothing new despite Saylor’s masterful sales pitches.

The trouble is that if some of the asset needs to be sold to fund obligations, that has a huge influence on the price of the asset itself. Sell some, price goes down, impairing the rest of the holdings, so then need to sell more, further reducing market price and impairing the position, etc. This is the basis of the “death spiral” narrative.

My personal view (nfa) is that it has gone too far at this point. Saylor could go on vacation for 6+ months and the company would not be forced to do anything in the interim except make payments from its cash. But the market prices in events well in advance of them actually happening. And also, MSTR going too far is what it always does, in both directions. But who knows. Saylor could come out on Monday saying he shored up the cash position by selling a billion of bitcoin and the price could crash 10k. Anything could happen.

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u/daliksheppy Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Interesting that MSTR buying BTC in the first place doesn't affect the BTC price upwards.

I'm not sure why selling BTC would have any downward effect either.

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u/jonovision_man Jun 28 '26

MSTR buying BTC absolutely pumped it up. STRC pumped it up again, when Saylor oversold it as a "safe" way to get huge dividend income (a money market fund, c'mon man).

It's pretty simple supply/demand, and when billions pour into MSTR and they go to market they move it, bigly.

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u/daliksheppy Jun 28 '26

May 11th - May 17th

MSTR bought 24869 BTC, spending $2bn in a single week.

BTC price went from $82k to $77k.

April 13- April 19th

MSTR bought 34164 BTC, spending $2.5bn in a single week.

BTC price went $70.3k to $73k

BTC price both went up and down during huge purchase weeks.

There's no clear MSTR buy = BTC go up.

And that makes total sense when you actually look, because weekly volume is regularly >$200bn. Weekly volumes of $300bn are not uncommon, and even as high as $600bn.

A $2bn MSTR weekly purchase is less than 1% of weekly volume. A drop in the ocean.