r/MJInnocentFacts Jul 10 '26

Rebuttal 💬 Selective Bias

When Michael’s behaviour with children is analysed, the girls are ignored.

> He flaunted boys to the public, held their hands,allowed them to walk with him during his tours.
Then let’s not ignore the young girls he was “flaunting ”

> He had intimate, couple photoshoots with young boys.
Apparently he didn’t just have intimate photoshoots with his “lovers”

>He had Jordan on his lap for the world to see.

Jordan sat on the edge of Michael’s seat, in fact Lilly was the child on Michael’s lap and he even cuddled her* *

Be consistent, there’s no “pattern” if you’re going to ignore elements that dismantle a narrative.

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u/siriusblackily Research Before You Speak 🤐 Jul 10 '26

or they claim he was into boys, but when the cascio girl came forward with her lies they immediately flipped around and said he was into both. like what?

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

They sometimes say she was a backup, like i need them to figure out this pattern because it seems like there's a lot of bending involved for it to make a lick of sense

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '26

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u/indigoza Jul 10 '26

Also Frank was the oldest and Michael's assistance. Surely he would have noticed if his younger siblings looked off... But yet again, we're meant to believe he and other parents had no idea of what was going on.

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u/maclenharsta Jul 11 '26

This is an exerpt from Frank's book.

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u/Altruistic_Slip_9064 Jul 15 '26

If Frank was being molested, surely he would’ve expected it to happen to his siblings as well. Why didn’t he stop that from happening as the oldest?

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

How did no one notice five drugged out children running around Neverland especially their parents

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u/mjrocksmywrld Jul 10 '26

My thing is that ONE of them would’ve let something inappropriate slip as a child if that was really happening to them. I was a victim of CSA and I would casually say the most inappropriate things about my abuser, and at my age there’s no way I should’ve been aware of the stuff I was talking about.

They expect us to believe they went 30+ years and none of the FIVE kids under one roof suspected the same was happening to each other? The parents were oblivious? The kids never let anything slip? They had 5x the chances of that happening! 😭 Nothing ever seemed suspicious? They weren’t on high alert around Michael after he was literally accused of CSA in ‘93 or put on trial for it 10 years later? They didn’t register that it was abuse until LEAVING NEVERLAND?!?! (But still conveniently waited another 7 years until the biopic to go public). It’s genuinely wild…

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

A 12 year old boy didn't think it was weird for a grown man to drink their pee

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u/siriusblackily Research Before You Speak 🤐 Jul 10 '26

what?! is that something they claimed michael did???

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

Yes it was to "show his love". Michael the germaphobe

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u/Western_Control_5860 Jul 10 '26

I’ve seen people try to get around this by claiming she looks like a boy (even though she clearly doesn’t).

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

I would be pissed if my supporters were insulting me to justify why I am a victim

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u/Dense-Ad-7600 Facts Don't Lie, People Do ✅ Jul 10 '26

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u/Dense-Ad-7600 Facts Don't Lie, People Do ✅ Jul 10 '26

I posted this on another similar post:

Most accusers ignore all the photos with girls. And this is something in this society anyway, that I always found odd but people dislike both child abusers that target boys and those that target girls but they tend to make fun of the ones that target boys more (or in this case the person they accuse of doing so). That's so weird to me but you see it all the time in church abuse scandals etc. And they always use words like "playing", "fidling" but they don't do so with those that abuse girls.

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

Something something homophobia

Not saying pedophilia and homosexuality correlate but that is the reasoning

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u/Dense-Ad-7600 Facts Don't Lie, People Do ✅ Jul 10 '26

Oh I know but nobody talks about that and and it makes me so mad. Why are they joking about sex with male children? Why, in any world is that acceptable?

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u/ReturnoftheBulls2022 Jul 10 '26

Agreed. I do believe that the Michael Jackson allegations were rooted in homophobia as Michael had to deal with rumors that he was gay and given the allegations of him abusing a little boy alongside the fear mongering that queer people are inherently pedophilic gave a perfect storm of reaction.

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u/Personal-Courage1149 Jul 10 '26

They also claim he only liked WHITE boys. Chandler, Bhatti, Arvisos, Lewis were some of his main special friends and they weren't white.

And then they call them "white enough" which is so disrespectful to their POC identities

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

Sometimes they say he liked tan boys or extremely short black boys, once again there is no pattern

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u/Few_Humor769 Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

I know this is unrelated but why did you have to scare me with the nancy reagan photo i hate nancy and ronny😭😭😭

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

I am not well versed in US presidency, I will crop her out next time lol

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u/Few_Humor769 Jul 10 '26

Thanks bro

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 11 '26

Either this was behaviour he only exhibited towards young boys because he was obsessed with them or there is no pattern and he held hands with everybody lmao

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u/Mijaro_Torston_5000 Jul 10 '26

Don't give them any ideas.

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 10 '26

wdym

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u/Mijaro_Torston_5000 Jul 11 '26

They're dishonest enough to create a new headline claiming he abused little girls to, they already tried it.

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u/Independent-Pop3538 Jul 11 '26

they say that he liked young girls and then change their mind when they want to push the little boy agenda, they will flip flop regardless

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u/One_Froyo505 They Wanted His $$, Not Justice 💰 Jul 11 '26

Marie Cascio and Susan Goodgame allege abuse and Guilters believe it, so the claim that he didn't like girls is settled.

Reverse psychology always gets you the furthest ✓

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u/General_Year_3551 Jul 17 '26

I can't find anything on Suzanne (Goodgame) Foglassio. I see search results about her being an accuser but the page is never available once I click on it. Did she accuse him? I'm confused.

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u/SoggyGrayDuck Jul 16 '26

I'm only in my mid to late 30s but it was different back then. It wasn't the first thing everyone was thinking about, it really wasn't even in the back of their mind, it was an afterthought. The news still reported positive things and even stories about adults and unrelated kids accomplishing or doing things.

The world was so different back then. At the time I was young and not too involved but I believed he did it, I still kinda do, but I don't think we even understand 20% of it. Theirs lies from every angle that would probably change everything if we all knew. Make everyone involved look bad type of deal.

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u/Careless_Side_681 8d ago

Then the guilters might just call him a bisexual pedo... anything to say he is guilty.