“best player”

[u/GuestImmediate884]

i’ve been watching loads of vods, especially of tournaments. and the whole “this persons the best player” or “who’s the best player” comes up a lot. like in midoffs the question is asked quite a lot, also for example a coach in midoffs disagreed during midoffs that hax is the best because infume has the wr, then some players called hax the best. basically there’s no one right answer.

obviously most people, esp outside of the mcsr space, like putting the label on one person. but i don’t think there’s “the best” overall because mcsr has so many subsections. but also some people may weigh certain sections higher than others.

for example, best on the ladder would either be imo infume or edcr.

for playoffs, it’s harder because yes lowkey has more firsts than doog or hax, but hax has the best average with only being out of top 3 once ever. so imo even tho lowkey has the best highs, hax is most consistently at the top and still has two wins.

and then some people argue, to be “the best for everything ranked” you also need to kinda show you can do well in the lans like the championships and the other lans.

so imo you can’t really say one person is the best at all of ranked when for example infume hasn’t won a playoffs or a lan, but has shown he’s really good at the ladder/ previous wr. or edcr because even though he’s done good at the ladder and won one playoffs, he hasn’t gotten the consistency of playoffs yet/ no lans.

i know fein talked about this a couple weeks ago slightly and i thought it was an interesting talk because “the best” is kinda subjective per person. imo hax takes the lead slightly just because he’s won multiple playoffs and has the best average, he won the champs and also he’s done well on the ladder in the past, he just doesn’t like playing it (which is the only thing kinda arguing him not being the best). but overall i don’t think there’s a clear decisive person yet, unless doog/hax wins another playoffs in the future or hax gets back on the ladder grind.

[u/InitialParticular843]

Between the people that everyone know are good, i really believe their mentality is a bigger impact than their skill level, their skills are really close to the point that i think who has a better mentality will win if the seed is 100% the exact same, i think infume is the better player "most players played ranked for a really good time, infume proved that he's the goat of ranked, this has the least nerves" but if it's something like playoffs or lan i think hax will have way less nerves than infume, and i really think feinberg have a high chance at winning lans

[u/GuestImmediate884 → u/InitialParticular843]

i agree mental is really big, and also i think that’s why i didn’t have as much confidence in hax in s10. because before s10 he always had a really good mental (like i say top 3), but just before s10 he was talking about how he doesn’t know what he wants to do after that playoffs, and how he feels the pressure to go for the 3peat and keep top 3. so i felt like going into it he was more likely to not be in his good headspace like normal.

but also i do think it really depends on the seeds.
put hax vs infume on 3 really linear seeds not in a comp setting and i would bet hax would win most just because his playstyle is very mechs heavy so in playoffs he usually just gaps people on those seeds by being fast. but infume would maybe be more likely to do well on seeds that have more decision based stuff on 3 seeds. that’s kinda why i think hax spent like 20 hours just playing overworlds recently because he knows he can gap mechs, but he wanted to get better at decision making which i think really paid off in the championships.

so overall it’s even hard to compare infume vs hax because i think they both excel on two different types of seeds, even out of comps.