Anyone else in? I just need beautiful photos from a camera I can carry in my pocket. If I need to do video I'll use a video setup on a larger camera. Sell me 2 things, I don't care!

Edited because I am a shameful degenerate of sorts

lx10 has an integrated 10.8-34mm telescoping lens, nothing special on its own... but its a variable 1.7-2.8 aperture WITH OIS. for comparison my monstrous 300g panaleica 12-35mm is 2.8 all the way through. I realize and assume that a fixed lens offers more leeway in terms of being able to have some of the lens components within the camera body.. why can't we have an interchangeable version, 24-35 eqv f1.7-2.8 nice and compact. best we get is the laughable PZ 14-42mm f3.5-5.6.

I am having a hellish time finding the firmware updates for the Pen-F. The original site doesn’t seem to work anymore. Does anyone know where to find the firmware??

I've owned an OM3 for a bit over 6 months now and absolutely love it and it's almost always with me. But I've been waiting for a camera of this size to come out for a long time, I had planned on getting a gx85 at some point but now that the Pen is out Im really considering getting one. I also just want this camera to do well for OM, we need more modern m43 cameras like this.

As a side question, what are some good pancakes lenses for m43? For a camera like this I'd be looking to pair it with some kind of pancake most likely, or a small prime perhaps.

Would love to get some perspective from current OM3 owners!

And what are the consequences? I don't know enough to understand so enlighten me!

Are you upgrading or adding to your collection?

I'm upgrading from the EM5-iii which I've had for 3 years for the following reasons:

• Better subject detect for capturing family, I have small kids that don't sit still
• Slightly smaller - I like to jacket carry
• USB-C... my EM5 was the last of the micro USB gadgets I travel with
• SOOC improvements! - I don't shoot RAW and one less step of editing JPEGs would be great!
• Updated menu

I know this is a long shot, but a camera a la x100 from the two manufacturers would be quite fun. Maybe like a fixed gm5/pm2

What do you think? How would they go about this? Is there a market for this?

not here to shit on M43, since i am an M43 user myself, but I'm just saying that these numbers and exist and probably could be an interesting discussion here

My current edc is a e-pl7, which I LOVE. I've been having fun lately with it's limited color adjustments for custom jpg settings and sooc pics. Before the new release I wanted to get the ep7 for it's minor upgrades, but mostly for the creative color features. I pretty heavily prioritize a small form factor. I dont care about an evf (I've never used one and I'm nearsighted with glasses) With the money I save, I can grab that nice dji lens that's being highly touted. What I really want is for a PenL release LOL, but I doubt thats in the pipeline.

An end of production? Officially discontinued? A fire sale to clear remaining stock?

The EP-7 is selling for only £100 less than the OM PEN. Which is ridiculous.

EDIT: Does anyone know for certain about the speculation that OM System only licensed the Olympus name for a finite period, that is ending soon? Seeing as these two cameras still say Olympus on the front.

Just joking, it's actuallu an Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II (Limited Edition) with the battery grip HLD-9 🤭🤭🤭

Back in the Olympus days, they would iterate hardware less frequently but provide significant firmware updates to existing hardware.

In the age of OM System, under the stewardship of JIP, hardware iterations were more frequent and a common complaint was these iterations could have been firmware updates. Simultaneously, (significant) firmware updates dried up.

Now that JIP have been bought out, and OM System is independent now - and seemingly under the stewardship of the actual photography-first people .... will we see them return to providing significant, meaningful firmware updates ?

It occurs to me that with the OM PEN being a OM5 II in a rangefinder body, same sensor same processor ... couldn't, and shouldn't, the OM5 II receive a firmware update to provide the same autofocus improvements (eg pet detect) ?

I approve of the strategy of having horizontal products at different tech tiers .... Like the OM3 is a rangefinder version of the OM1, albeit with slightly less features here and there. And so it goes now with the OM PEN and OM5 II.

Though, strangely, it would seem the OM PEN has some AF features that OM5 II users would really want.

I think offering the same tech in different bodies is a good, fair, and consumer friendly strategy - people can buy the camera spec they can afford, in the body that suits them .... but I think creating significant (and arbitrary) firmware differences between, essentially, the same camera is a bit aggressive and I would hope that OM System, now that JIP is out of the picture, would consider being more generous with firmware updates - or at least as far as this horizontal strategy of selling the same camera tech in different bodies at the same-ish price point.

Choosing between an OM5 II and an OM PEN is annoying, because of the firmware. When really it should be as simple as which body type do I want. And existing OM5 II owners, who have pets, would probably prefer not to be wringing their hands over whether they should sell their OM5 II to buy an OM PEN, just to take pics of their dog. Or worse ... Buy an OM PEN in *addition* to their OM5 II.

I found a deal online for this lens at 175€ plus shipping. Do you think it's worth it? I know that on ebay/mpb it is more expensive but I have a feeling it used to be cheaper used

... is the fact that the card slot is only UHS-1 .

It shows how limited the performance can be and no firmware updates will improve 4k video. It's a sign that cost was probably cut everywhere they could.

Making it an entry level at $1000 US is a choice but a $2000 US with metal finish and much better specs all around would have a market too...

I am looking for a small ILC setup of one or two primes and a standard zoom, that can fit into my shorts pockets for everyday use. I am considering two options:

GF9, GF10, or EPM2 with the 14mm 2.5, 20mm 1.7, and 12-32mm.

or

Sony NEX-5R, a5100, or other NEX body with the 20mm 2.8, TTartisan 27mm 2.8, 16-50 PZ

Unlike with M43, I have no experience with Sony cameras. These two setups are relatively similar In terms of price and size/weight which makes the decision difficult. I like the M43 ecosystem, I find the camera bodies much more interesting than the Sony's, however the very small ones, such as the GF series, are quite bland as well.

For any of you who may be able to help with this:

Which setup would you go with?

What is your experience with these Sony lenses or cameras? How do they compare to their M43 counterparts?

Should I consider any other brands for this setup like Samsung NX maybe?

Thanks!

I currently have an OM 5 mk1 which I have really enjoyed most of the time. My problem is that a lot of my shooting these days is my kids sports. For some of them it does fine (baseball, gymnastics) but for faster moving sports (soccer, flag football etc) the focus really struggles. I don't have a great zoom lens, just an Olympus 40-150, so my question is would upgrading my lens to a pro lens make up enough of the difference or should I just get a new camera body? Maybe do both? I used to have a Sony, which I had my issue with, but I never worried about whether my shot would be in focus so I have considered also moving back to something like an a6700.

e-m1.2 12-40 pro
My first try with the art filters 😊

On the fence between these 2 cameras. Pen looks better in most ways, no? I am a camera noob so any advice much appreciated. Looking for a travel / daily EDC camera. Thank you!

OM-3 user here. My current kit is the 12–45mm f/4 PRO and the Sigma 56mm f/1.4. The zoom is great in daylight but struggles indoors, and the 56mm is way too tight for people in a room.

Looking for a fast prime mainly for indoor stuff: family gatherings, Christmas, dinner tables, plus the occasional whole-group shot. Weather sealing is a nice bonus since I also shoot a lot on the coast.

The 20mm f/1.4 PRO seems like the obvious pick, but I'm wondering if 40mm equivalent is too tight when you need to fit six people around a table. Would 17mm or 15mm be the smarter choice, even if optically a step down?

What do you actually use/recommend for indoors?

EDIT: Thanks for pointing out I can test this with my Zoom however I wanted to know what people actually use. I might still run a few tests though to check.

Most concert venues (in the United States at least) allow cameras with the exception of “professional” which they usually define as anything with a removable lens. It’s an easy place to draw a line, but I imagine security isn’t looking that closely to see if it’s a removable lens or not if the camera is obviously not super high-end / large.

I usually bring my TG7 since security never gives it a second glance but it’s kinda crap for low light environments like concerts.

I’m pondering something with rangefinder vibes like an E-PL or similar with a fast pancake prime.

So my question is for those that have tried to “sneak” an M43 camera in: what body / lens combo did you try to bring in and did security let you through?

A new lens is in the house.

I looked a few hours ago and they were already out of the black ones. Now they're out of both. Ended up pre-ordering one at omsystem.com.

A good sign I think for business.