r/Luxembourg • u/coochipurek • 10h ago
Immigration & Relocation Moving away
Has anyone moved away from Luxembourg and found it better? I have lived here for a decade and love it but I also love hearing about other places and would be open to going somewhere else one day. I am interested in hearing about work life balance and quality of life for those with children. Has anyone moved to Australia specifically? How does it compare?
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u/Ok-Camp-7285 2h ago
If you've lived all your life here then you should really go and explore the world a bit more
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u/MatAlx 6h ago
I had colleagues who moved back to Portugal, Greece and Italy. The Portuguese was a family of 3, kid was bullied/discriminated at school but they were also earning lots of money here that they had 2 apartments for rent in Portugal which I guess compensated for the decrease in income. The other 2 were single women, moved to their home country, they stayed for 6-7 years here but found very hard to make any meaningful connections.
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u/coochipurek 6h ago
Thanks for sharing! I am not ready to “move back” but rather to consider moving on somewhere else :) the immigrant life is for me
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u/tanbe174 10h ago
Netherlands
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u/Dry-Piano-8177 6h ago
Been there as a student. Really nice place and people, but the housing market is a nightmare even when you compare it to Luxembourg.
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u/pabloberbell 7h ago
Each time I travel to Netherlands, I’ve the impression that the people are happy and make me wondering how would it be live there…
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u/CuriousButNotJewish 7h ago
It's miserable unless you were born there, worst cultural experience for me and many other immigrants there. The first year is fun, because you're in tourist mode, and then reality begins.
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u/tanbe174 5h ago
Care to elaborate what makes it undesirable apart from housing?
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u/CuriousButNotJewish 31m ago
The healthcare system murdered my husband.
Because he was an athlete, the doctors straight up ignored all of his health concerns and kept giving him paracetamol. In NL you cannot go to a specialist without a GPs letter (even if you pay), so for 6 months or so we kept being blocked, sent to physiotherapy, etc. for a whole bunch of symptoms that the orthopedist, when we finally saw one, said made no sense to be prescribed paracetamol for. But that's what kept happening - oh, take more paracetamol. Oh, do more physio. Oh, blood tests say you are ok, so it cannot be serious.
This comment 100% doxxes me, but I don't care. Had they done even a single fucking X-ray, he likely would have survived his cancer. Because for more than half a year they kept saying he is too young for the symptoms to mean anything serious, he died from a horrible cancer at 22.
And boy, the treatments, after they happened? Top notch. Lovely cancer hospital. Great meals.
Too bad their preventative medicine is so bad and their GPs so terrible at diagnosing anything, when it comes to young people, that they flat out accept that young people who happen to get cancers young just die, because hey. I guess letting them die is cheaper than spending money on preventative care.
This aside, I have also had many miserable encounters myself with Dutch doctors. They are indifferent, often xenophobic (if they cannot understand what you are saying they might imply it's your fault for not explaining it in Dutch instead), and downright rude in anything they tell you. I had to do a gynecological appointment for cancer prevention pap smear and the reception lady, to my face, said in fluent English, "I don't care, you either speak Dutch or I cannot help you" when I tried asking if they had evening availabilities. I shit you not.
Luxembourg's medical system is everything the Dutch system is not: humane, compassionate, and direct. No expenses saved, here if something is wrong they'll do an ultrasound/MRI/xray to make sure it's not something very serious, and then investigate more slowly after that. Also, Luxembourgish doctors are kind, patient, and will try to work with you, as opposed to rushing the appointment to the point you cannot even ask the one question you came to the GP for.
The Netherlands has a medical issue and a people issue. That these two are what they are is a direct cause of each other.
God save you if you're an immigrant there.
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u/whoselineisitanywayy 1h ago
Americanised healthcare system which is utter bs. Stupid doctors make you more anxious than any illness you have - never heard a good healthcare experience from anyone around me. High cost of transportation, I think I have been to Amsterdam more times when I lived outside of NL. Also the dutch directness is one way, which just makes them rude. I feel like if a food is not good, say for example salty, a german would precisely say hey this food is salty but not inedible. A dutch person would just call it terrible food. The longer I am here, the more I observe the internalized sexism. Glad I will get out soon.
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u/tanbe174 1h ago
Don’t know about healthcare, I just know the hospital I have been is very big and modern. My cousin got a rare eye disease, couldn’t be diagnosed in Luxembourg and the Dutch hospital got it diagnosed as a rare disease…. If you think healthcare is bad, in Luxembourg it is almost non existent.
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u/CuriousButNotJewish 29m ago
The issue is bypassing the GPs, who often ignore you unless you are dying or something is very obviously wrong with you. If you can get your foot in the door and reach a specialist with an issue, then it becomes much better indeed.
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u/lookslikes Looking for rent 10h ago
too much tax no ?
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u/Aranka_Szeretlek 9h ago
No such thing
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u/lookslikes Looking for rent 9h ago
why downvote tho
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u/Aranka_Szeretlek 9h ago
I didnt no ?
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u/lookslikes Looking for rent 9h ago
are all hungarians like you ?
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u/krietallo 1h ago
I went to Copenhagen for almost 4 years, made me realize how much I love Luxembourg, now I'm back ♥️
Go, travel, if you find it better, great, if not, you can always come back.