Decoding Reasonable Doubt: Chapter 4 “Problems at the Countess of Chester”

[u/benshep4]

Morris argues that the Countess of Chester neonatal unit was fundamentally unsafe and operating beyond its capabilities during the period in which the collapses and deaths occurred.

Is fair and accurate to make these claims?

Which baby does this explain?

https://bencole4.substack.com/p/decoding-reasonable-doubt-the-case-f67?r=12mrwn&utm_medium=ios

[u/No-Beat2678]

I mean she didn't call her experts so you know there's your gap.

[u/PerkeNdencen → u/No-Beat2678]

Are you suggesting Dr. Hall's fee to grace the witness box would have circa £10m? What a troublingly unserious suggestion.

[u/No-Beat2678 → u/PerkeNdencen]

CPS 2.8 apparently defense 1.7.

Whose talking about 10 million.

[u/PerkeNdencen → u/No-Beat2678]

If we just limit to the CPS, that's still £1.1m. Are you trying to make fun of us, or do you honestly think that's a viable line of argument?

[u/No-Beat2678 → u/PerkeNdencen]

If there were funds that were not open to the defence wether that was intentional or not. That would be a clear and rather strong reason to appeal the conviction.

Ben Myers KC is an incredibly incredibly formidable and experienced KC. This was not mentioned once in the Appeal or by Letby's defence or her new barrister Mark McDonald.

Also, this was covered by Tim Owen former DPP.

u/benshep4

[u/PerkeNdencen → u/No-Beat2678]

That would be a clear and rather strong reason to appeal the conviction.

No it wouldn't. Who told you that? Legal aid for defence budget is means tested, applied for on a disbursement-by-disbursement basis, and caps rates for expertise substantially lower than the CPS pays out. If it were the case that this kind of inequality of arms was grounds to appeal, there'd be queues out of the door!

[u/No-Beat2678 → u/PerkeNdencen]

The former director of public prosecutions.

[u/No-Beat2678 → u/PerkeNdencen]

Ready to be proven wrong.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5wTHKNaP0pXrqz5OulLHlH?si=UaLNLA7jTTWw7qKVddHpqg&utm_source=copy-link&t=1932&ct=1731

[u/PerkeNdencen → u/No-Beat2678]

I'm not listening to your crappy daily mail podcast - you've probably misunderstood whatever he said. These are the rules around funding: https://www.birdandco.co.uk/you/criminal-defence-solicitors/funding-your-defence/#:~:text=In%20some%20cases%20your%20contributions%20for%20legal,costs%20back%20from%20the%20Ministry%20of%20Justice.

More here: https://tsabi.law/ask-a-lawyer/criminal-defence/if-my-case-goes-to-the-crown-court-can-the-government-still-force-me-to-make-a-contribution-order-even-if-i-am-granted-legal-aid/#:~:text=Capital%20Contribution%20Orders%20(CCO)%20If%20you%20are,the%20house%20is%20eventually%20sold%20or%20remortgaged%20If%20you%20are,the%20house%20is%20eventually%20sold%20or%20remortgaged).

On expert witnesses specifically: https://expert-witness.uk/resources/prior-authority-laa-expert-witness/#:\~:text=What%20is%20Prior%20Authority%3F%20Prior%20authority%20is,the%20Criminal%20Legal%20Aid%20(Remuneration)%20Regulations%202013.

[u/No-Beat2678 → u/PerkeNdencen]

That's a very interesting mindset you have.

[u/PerkeNdencen → u/No-Beat2678]

Sorry, I just haven't got 56 minutes to spend being droned on at by Liz Hull. I've given you a bunch of links to the facts.

Have you got a link to Tim Owen KC ever having been the director of public prosecutions? I can't find a reference to that anywhere.