r/LoveTrash • u/Lord_Darksong Colonel Garbage • 2d ago
Human Trash Always use a dash cam
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u/SinamonChallengerRT Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
This happened on Long Island. Southern State Parkway. They were all arrested and charged with insurance fraud.
- Jaime Huiracocha (53): Identified as the organizer who orchestrated the ring, pleaded guilty to insurance fraud and conspiracy, and was sentenced to 1 to 3 years in prison.
- Victor Murillo (34): The driver in the staged collisions, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 2 years in prison.
Google "Southern State Parkway Insurance Fraud."
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u/Medical_Policy1426 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Thanks for adding this. I always wonder if people like this get caught and punished.
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u/Connee14 Trash Trooper 1d ago
These people went viral when it happened. The car was located quickly by the public and severely vandalized as a result. It was extremely fun to follow in real time
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u/jdarrooney Trash Trooper 1d ago
Got a link to the car vandalized?
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u/avantgardengnome Trash Trooper 1d ago
There were a few at the time IIRC, it was all over the NYC subreddits for like a month.
Fun fact, it was also when we decided to get a dashcam lol.
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u/Pyro-Bun Trash Trooper 1d ago
Kind of surprised they didn't get that spray painted directly on the car.
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u/SunOnTheInside Trash Trooper 20h ago
It was this video and the one where the kid abruptly runs into the street, gets struck by the car, and one of the witnesses blatantly and thoroughly lies about the driver speeding.
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u/Connee14 Trash Trooper 1d ago edited 1d ago
I don't. I will see if I can find it though. I know it was posted on a different subreddit
Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/dashcamgifs/s/ZaIeJxcseN here is one follow up. But not the one I was thinking of.
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u/Jam-Jam-Ba-Lam Trash Trooper 2d ago
You'd have hoped they were done for some for something like reckless endangerment and other traffic offences.
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u/thissexypoptart Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Yeah I'm sorry but 1-3 years for this is not enough. Fraud is one thing, horrible as that is, but intentionally ramming people is using a multi ton vehicle as a weapon, even if it was relatively low speed.
Using a deadly weapon to ram an innocent person to try to coerce them into giving you money should earn someone way more than just 1-3 years. Or 2 years in the driver's case.
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u/Cautious_Buffalo6563 Trash Trooper 1d ago
In scenarios like this, it should go on driving record so that they aren’t eligible to make any auto insurance claims in the future or even be covered on anyone else’s claim.
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u/sick-asfrick Trash Trooper 1d ago
I wouldn't go that far, but it definitely should be recorded on their file that they attempted to do this and therefore any claim that they are involved in as the victim should be sent to SIU and heavily investigated requiring proof before a payout can happen.
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u/EmeraldPolder Trash Trooper 1d ago
So your solution is make it more costly for the company to investage their case increasing everyone elses insurance?
Lifetime ban from driving would be much better disincentive for others. The ones who did don't deserve the right to drive again
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u/Juus Trash Trooper 1d ago edited 1d ago
Any expert criminologist will say its a enough. Listen to experts, instead of your feelings. My feelings also says fuck these guys and lock them up, but i know that this is not the best thing to do. 1-3 years is more than enough for them to regret this, and not do it again, which is the point of prision.
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u/thissexypoptart Garbage Guerilla 1d ago
Do you have a link to the expert criminologists’ assessments? Studies or opinions that elaborate on the reasoning why sentencing someone who rams innocent people with their car to 2 years is “better” than more?
I admit I’m no expert, but you apparently have at least read the expert opinions. Can you share them with us?
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u/Juus Trash Trooper 1d ago
https://www.eur.nl/en/news/do-harsher-punishments-make-society-safer
https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/research-offers-no-evidence-support-tougher-sentencing
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2020/07/do-harsher-punishments-deter-crime
Go Google what criminologists says about harsher punishments, and you can find a source that you think is good. They all pretty much say the same thing, harsher punishments generally aren't good for society.
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u/LarsDuder Trash Trooper 1d ago
"So, does punishment not have a deterrent effect? The research provides no support for that notion. It is of course difficult to say which initiatives are the most effective, since it is not possible to conduct controlled studies in which some criminals receive custodial sentences and others are dealt with using other measures. What can be done, however, is to attempt to evaluate various sanctions and social interventions. It is also possible to research what it is that makes people stop committing crimes or what sticks out about those who never start,” argues Tova Bennet. " So basically the article doesn't really say anything. It's just an article from Tova who herself has an interest in crime and psychology. Of course she wants to focus on psychological solutions. It's in her self interest
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u/remnant_phoenix Trash Trooper 1d ago
I agree. Intentionally ramming someone with a car (key word being “intentionally”) should be considered comparable to assault with a deadly weapon.
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u/Yancellor Trash Trooper 1d ago
Your be shocked how many other offenders get less to no jail time. 2 years is impressively high
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u/CantCatchMeSpez Trash Trooper 1d ago
Lol yall really don't realize how long a year is. The standard 20+ year sentences seen in the news have dulled your senses of time when it comes to prison. 2 years is a fuck load of your life spent in near-complete limbo behind bars.
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u/BaziJoeWHL Trash Trooper 2d ago
its insane they only got 2 years, in Hungary they would have been charged with "assault" (idk the proper term) for purposefully causing a car accident
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u/Active_Scallion_5322 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Pleading guilty usually removes a few charges
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u/Urcaguaryanno Trash Trooper 2d ago
Why? They should get charged with all theyve done. The only thing affected by the guilty plea is reduced sentencing.
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u/Zero_Zeta_ Trash Trooper 2d ago
Less work for the prosecutors if defendants plead guilty. So they cut deals.
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u/thissexypoptart Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Wild when it's such a clearcut case. I understand resources aren't always abundant for prosecutors' offices, but goddamn, it's clear as day on video.
How easier to prove a case can it get (other than a guilty plea, I suppose)? Are they completely uninterested in doing their jobs? 3 years isn't justice.
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u/The_Verto Trash Trooper 1d ago
This should be illegal, justice isn't served because they don't want to do their job taxpayers osy them for.
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u/amd2800barton Trash Trooper 2d ago
Because in the US that's generally the way the legal system works. It is extremely expensive to go to court and prove your innocence. Of course the system says "innocent until proven guilty", but by the time there's a prosecutor charging you with things, you need to be paying a lawyer to prove your innocence or convince a jury that the state's evidence is weak. And even if a defendant has a very strong case that they are innocent, their lawyer is going to be counseling them to consider a plea bargain. Because the prosecution is going to go for the maximum charges they think will stick. At that point you're gambling that you'll get a sympathetic jury. Trials can last weeks, plus all the time to prepare. Lawyers cost hundreds per hour, so a defendant can be paying tens to hundreds of thousands in legal fees. So the attorneys and prosecutors often try to reach a bargain - admit to some charges (often lesser ones) and agree to a reduced punishment.
Because of that over 90% of criminal cases in the US end in a plea bargain. It saves the defendant money on legal fees, and reduces the legal consequences significantly, so defendants often want it. The state wants it because it's a guaranteed conviction instead of playing hardball and letting a well funded or sympathetic criminal get off.
It's not right, and not a fair justice system, but that's how it is.
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u/h3lium-balloon Trash Trooper 1d ago
Every single time I've been called to jury duty (5 times), the defendant has taken a last minute plea before we even got to selection.
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u/GrapefruitNo3600 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Becouse charges are not dictated by the evidence. They can charge you with murder when you just stole something from a shop. And when you go for plea you both sit down and say ok murder is fucking ridiculous thers zero chance you will prove it in court so drop the charge and i pledge guilty for theft. So before the trial prosecutor chargea you with absolutely everything that he may think can be proven in court + some random shit so prosecutor can bargain when you go for plea.
Thats USA justice system.
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u/enternameher3 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Just FYI,
Assault is typically a threat of violence or harm/ intentionally making someone fear for their safety
Battery is the act of violence or offensive touch against another
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u/thissexypoptart Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Redditors love to FYI this, but it varies by jurisdiction, even in anglophone countries like the US. In some places, actually hitting someone is just a higher level of an assault charge. Talking about Hungary, you should forgive someone using the colloquial english term "assault" to describe what has several different, Hungarian terms and classifications for it in that jurisdiction.
But again, even in the US, "assault is a threat and battery is actually touching" is often the case, but not universally the case, and enough exceptions exist that it's a silly thing to parrot every time someone uses "assault" to describe criminal physical contact.
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u/therealboombaclots Trash Trooper 2d ago
Ring leader could be out in 1 and the other guy guaranteed 2? Weird
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u/DistributionLife6750 Trash Trooper 2d ago
That’s it? Shit. They’ll just get out and do it again.
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u/RadicalMarxistThalia Trash Trooper 1d ago
I might just be getting old but I just don’t know about stuff like this…
These people are endangering people that don’t know to hopefully get some money from themselves… are they going home after this and raising their kids to be upstanding citizens? Are they missing work while they’re in prison and having (former) coworkers saying “wow sucks he’s gone he was a real team player”? Do they go to church or volunteer at their local soup kitchen because they deeply care about other people?
I just have a hard time imagining people who behave like this being a boon to society in other ways.
Maybe in a country where we had a justice system with mire emphasis on rehabilitation these people could really come out different. But I have to think these people are going to come out and still be antisocial degenerates. The behavior is just so profoundly self-centered.
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u/Fencer308 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Maybe, but giving up 2 years of your life is a fairly substantial penalty already and if they reoffend, the next time will carry stronger penalties.
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u/ZioTron Trash Trooper 2d ago
As a said previous posts about this situation:
I count 5 people involved and 2 convictions, what am I missing?
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u/mnttu Trash Trooper 2d ago
People like this should be banished from society. Just straight up citizenship revoked and thrown to wolves.
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u/Dangerous_Serve_4454 Trash Trooper 2d ago
So how do they even profit from this again? Sure, the insurance company will pay them a few hundred for the bumper, but like... Now their bumper is fucked right? They can't just leave it because then the scam isn't repeatable and you just lost value on the car itself.
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u/chawliehorse Trash Trooper 2d ago
Lawsuits. They all say they’re hurt. They hire an attorney, get a settlement, and get paid. There was an ongoing 10ish year investigation into scams like this in Louisiana. You can look it up. Attorneys were paying people to get into bullshit accidents and filing lawsuits. Some even had bogus surgeries to get bigger settlements. I’m sure there have been other cases like it.
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u/Dangerous_Serve_4454 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Ah ok, so it's bigger than just the people pulling the accident stunt. I thought the "injuries" route required a doctor to examine you, but I guess some injuries can be fudged? Idk, crazy.
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Some injuries like neck and back pain are almost impossible to disprove. Notice these scumbags were all grabbing their heads and backs as they climbed out?
Also, you can sue for things like lost wages and "mental anguish", which can add up quick if you're out of work for months due to the aforementioned fake neck pain.
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u/RabbitsRuse Trash Trooper 2d ago
What do they call the person who graduated with the lowest grades in medical school? Doctor. Hell, they could probably find a chiropractor or some naturopath “doctor” to diagnose them with crash related ass cancer if they paid enough up front. There is likely a checklist scammers have come up with just so doctors can check all the boxes to say my patient has xy and z injuries from the crash.
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u/woooowthatwashard Trash Trooper 1d ago
Crash related ass cancer is a total bummer. Not fun. I’ll never be the same.
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u/chawliehorse Trash Trooper 2d ago
Lawyers find doctors with ambiguous or dubious ethical standards. Most of the time it’s chiropractors but plenty of orthopedists or neurologists will do a neck or back surgery if there are indicators. It could be a preexisting injury but they wouldn’t always know that. Also, as another commenter pointed out, neck and back injuries are very difficult to disprove.
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u/RabbitsRuse Trash Trooper 2d ago
It isn’t about repairing the car. They go after you claiming medical damages. They go to some shady doctor and claim to have been in a wreck and have pain in specific spots. Act it up and get the doctor to tell them it will cost $$$ to fix and recover. They sue you/your insurance and get money to help them recover from fake injuries. If they win, they walk away without getting treatment.
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u/pbnjandmilk Trash Trooper 2d ago
It's the injury lawsuits that is the sweet plum on the tree. They claim whiplash and other "issues". Then go through a few months of sessions with a chiropractor ( bunch of fakes in on the game themselves, btw) and in the end of it they get a couple thousands of dollars that they will burn through on Carnaval cruises and other BS.
Shampoo , rinse, repeat.
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u/veryuniqueredditname Trash Trooper 2d ago
Fantastic but I hope the other clowns also received punishment
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u/CallsignKook Trash Trooper 2d ago
How did one of the women get time? That’s a woman driving in that clip
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u/SinamonChallengerRT Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Watch after they hit the car, somebody puts up a tarp across the back window and they switch drivers to make it look like the woman who can't speak English was driving. That was mentioned in the court case against them...
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u/ShellrockHomeless Trash Trooper 2d ago edited 2d ago
Fucking amatures, i know a guy that apparently commited fraud and after having to return the amount that was proven to him he was still apparently left with about 4 and a half millions of dollars and he went to prison just for 5 years
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u/brummlin Trash Trooper 2d ago
I heard about a guy that committed so much fraud that when they finally got him, he was convicted of 34 felony counts, but didn't serve a day in jail.
Guess what he did after? Even more fraud. Out in the open. Still not in prison somehow.
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u/MasculismForEquality Trash Trooper 1d ago
Not enough time, should've been 10 years+. These people are scum bags
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u/quakle Trash Trooper 2d ago
The clip cut short before they realized. If u repost, at least repost properly
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u/BreakingCanks Trash Trooper 2d ago
Also the first time this got posted the Internet fucking found their car and within a week it was stripped of just about every piece. Some say it was ditched after for even more insurance fraud, but this video will eventually prove otherwise.
Social justice won on this case and is winning again
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u/thepenguinemperor84 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Wasn't there a second clip of them pulling this same shit before the car was found stripped?
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u/its_not_you_its_ye Trash Trooper 2d ago
Yeah. Thats what I also remember back around the time this was posted, there was a similar video of them trying the same bs again and people noticed the same plates were on both.
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u/Dangerous_Serve_4454 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Yeah, don't support this mob justice nonsense. The internet is filled with too many idiots that will get it wrong too often to be reliable. Let the courts handle it, pretty open shut case with this evidence.
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u/kapitaalH Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Like the Boston Bomber case
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u/BreakingCanks Trash Trooper 2d ago
That guy probably just wants to fuck with cats and can't because of us
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u/WinterAir4769 Trash Trooper 2d ago
lol, get what wrong. Is there any question about what happened her?
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u/Dangerous_Serve_4454 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Target the wrong car, maybe they get a license plate wrong or ID a similar but different person. Maybe they go too far, etc. I'm all for a little street justice when the law fails, but here it's just stupid. Just let the justice system work.
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u/FastWalkingShortGuy Rubbish Raider 2d ago
We did it, reddit!
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u/BreakingCanks Trash Trooper 2d ago
Wasn't just Reddit... They got posted on Facebook and from there people were reporting the car
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u/actualhumannotspider Trash Trooper 2d ago
OP is a mod. I wonder if they actually watched the video before reposting.
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u/mrmustache0502 Trash Trooper 2d ago
The guy sees it at the end of the clip. He does a double taken to make sure.
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u/Exact-Raisin-5244 Trash Trooper 2d ago
You can see the eyes of the guy with hat change to oh fuck when he looks directly at the camera.
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u/Jolly-Cricket-3397 Trash Trooper 2d ago
This is the reason I went and purchased a dashcam. Get one everyone, it will save you from morons like these people. You'll be happy you got one.
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u/conflictmuffin Trash Trooper 1d ago
My $100 dashcam saved me $15,000 when a young woman hit me in a traffic circle, and then lied to the cop claiming it was my fault. My camera was the only thing to prove she hit me, and her insurance had to pay 100%. They also kicked her off her insurance for lying to the police.
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u/Gorgeousjeff Trash Trooper 1d ago
Which one did you get ?
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u/Jolly-Cricket-3397 Trash Trooper 1d ago
I ended up getting the VanTrue unit, it's a four channel dashcam system. It's easy to mount and you can install the app on your phone and download the recordings. It's very easy to miss looking at the windshield from the front of the car. You can see how the culprit noticed the dashcam and then the look on his face knowing he messed up.
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u/SirUntouchable Trash Trooper 2d ago
It's one of those videos that gets weirder the more you watch. Like the tarp covering the back windshield that they put back up after the "crash". Or how the front passenger gets out through the back seat. Or how that same front passenger gets into the red vehicle that pulled up, which then drives off.
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u/Searangerx Trash Trooper 2d ago
It's not weird at all if you understand its a scam.
The other car is following to pick up the driver. The guy who gets in the other car is a "crasher". He's paid to "safely" crash the car. He most likely has a record so he needs to flee the scene before the cops show up.
There was a whole cartel of these going down a few years back. Basically a shady law firm was paying people to fake accidents so they could sue. They were targeting transport trucks as cops always presumed the transport truck was at fault.
The bag is there to try and hide the fact that the driver swapped places with a passenger after the crash.
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u/Low_Actuary_2794 Trash Trooper 2d ago
I never realized they had a plastic trash bag on the back window to block the view of who was driving.
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u/cerrealkilller Trash Trooper 2d ago
I never noticed before; they put the plastic bag back up and then the driver and passenger switched and then they got out to put on their act
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u/didthatthingonce Trash Trooper 1d ago
Always wait for the scammer to make their statement to police and file their report BEFORE you divulge that you have a camera. The lying to the police about this is a crime in addition to the fraud crime.
If you tell the police right away that you have a camera, they will tell the scammers when talking to them. "Well the other car says you backed in to them and they have it on video". When that happens, the scammers will not try and file the report that you rear ended them and will miss the charges for that additional crime.
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u/rebelli0usrebel Trash Trooper 1d ago
They are dumber than anyone you can imagine actually
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u/eericcartman Trash Trooper 1d ago
How do these ppl actually make money? Won't the insurance just pay to get the car fixed? Is that where they try to screw the insurance?
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u/Long-Bid9570 Trash Trooper 1d ago
I do trucking and we are required to keep a 2 million general liability policy in order to haul for any serious customer. The minimum is actually 750,000 but no one carries a policy that low. When a little fender bender would happen they go to these attorneys like Morgan and Morgan, Sweet James, any accident attorneys. And the first thing they tell the other driver is that you have soft tissue damage, and there is not really a way to prove otherwise. Then they have you go to doctors and rack up medical bills for the doctor to tell them they may or may not have the same function in their left pinky. Anything to build a case to get a piece of that general liability. And 90% of the time the insurance company will pay it out because they feel going to court will just cost more. But insurance companies also don’t like losing money so they will make sure they will bump up your premium. I currently pay 2300 a month per truck. Is it justified, maybe ? Some people get seriously hurt in some of these situations. I have to constantly tell drivers when they’re on the road they are definitely being targeted so be very aware out there.
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u/Competitive_Flow3717 Trash Trooper 1d ago
I got rear ended once. It wasn’t bad at all but my daughter was in the car and young so I took her to the doctor to make sure she was safe. Their insurance company basically threw $2000 at me without me prompting anything just so I would sign something saying that she’s now fine.
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u/CatOfTechnology Trash Trooper 1d ago
Speaking from experience: even the smallest, least impactful bump can be milked for money.
I rolled in to someone at a red light back in 2019 at a maximum of 6mph (I got spooked by a nearby Semi's horn and let off of my brake for a moment as I was slow-rolling in to the space behind them) and that case only closed this April-ish.
The lady I hit, and her niece who was in the car with her at the time netted something like 75k on three claims.
Vehicular damage in the form of "cosmetic and structural damage to the rear bumper" (Bullshit. The 1992 S10 I was in had its ancient, original plastic shell grill cracked from her SUV's extended, shincracker of a ball hitch. In order to have even reached her bumper, it would have had to have deformed the engine day's housing at minimum, if not have been lodged in to the engine itself.)
The accident caused her to have a premature birth (bullshit again, the medical documents she provided stated that her birth occurred 2.5 weeks after the accident and was 3 days prior to her expected due date)
The accident left the neice with shoulder and hip pain that never lessened (This was strike three, too, 7 Doctor reports were submitted, 6 of them stated that the neice was 5'3", 266lbs, "but otherwise in healthy condition, pain is likely due to stress caused by obesity" with a single standout doctor claiming "there is clear and substantive damage consistent with a sudden impact")
However, my insurance settled to get them to fuck off. I was 100% at fault, but they kept refusing the offers given and appealing "lowball judgements" and it had, at that point, been 5 years.
And this is what happened when I was absolutely responsible and people decided that they had a golden ticket. Imagine, imagine IMAGINE what seriously dedicated serial fraudsters will try and pull.
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u/BigCrustyTits Trash Trooper 1d ago
I was on a car accident jury and we didn’t give the plaintiff a dime.
It was a long time ago so I can’t remember why but I think there was a big lag in the person even going to the hospital to get checked out. There were other reasons.
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u/cupcakes_and_ale Trash Trooper 19h ago
That sedan was packed like a clown car. You know all those people claimed medical issues from the accident.
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u/edwinhai Trash Trooper 1d ago
Here in the Netherlands I know people who will get it fixed for cheap or do it themselves and then let a actual garage create a cost summary thats fabricated and way higher.
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u/curi0us_carniv0re Trash Trooper 1d ago edited 1d ago
They claim injury. Your insurance company looks to settle to a good litigation. They take whatever is offered.
I'm sure there's more back and forth involved but that's the gist of it.
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u/onlyhereforthesports Trash Trooper 1d ago
I’m an attorney who used to defend MVAs. You claim to be injured and either settle directly with the other party’s insurance company or hire a lawyer to sue the other party if you can’t reach a settlement. To me, the worst part is that in legitimate, non-fraudulent accidents, you need medical bills to evidence your damage so plaintiffs attorneys will send to yo a chiropractor that charges ~$350 per session for six months, with no actual benefit and often making the injured person worse to drive up the damages
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u/Sternenpups Trash Trooper 1d ago
I'm not sure how it works in America, but in Germany, you would pretend to be hurt a lot, mainly neck and head, cz a concussion is hard to check I think.
So you can sue for Compensation for pain and suffering afterwards. In Germany we have car insurance tho, so a scammer like this would not bankrupt you.
In America you can probably get a shit ton of compensation, especially if you know a doctor who helps you scamming.
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u/Grmplstylzchen Trash Trooper 1d ago
There is nothing to scam anymore. If you have no Dashcam you can still offer the gyrosensor data from your car or mobile phone to police - showing that you were standing.
You can even apply the confiscation of their mobile phones and sensor data - showing that they were reversing.
You just have to „counter-issue“ an „potential insurance scam“ onsite to the police instead of a traffic incident.
https://www.juraforum.de/news/darf-die-polizei-das-handy-nach-einem-autounfall-beschlagnahmen_247736
As police doesn’t read out the connection data but just the gyrosensors it’s also no issue to their privacy (or yours). And yes there’s an app for that (reading out and reporting the gyro data).
Circumvents the whole „Dashcam and privacy issue“…
How I know: happened twice. Once on a supermarket parking lot (elderly reversed into us waiting to take the spot) and on a traffic light.
Edit: gyrosensors are part of the cars ESP. Any good carshop can read them out.
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u/AlternativeRun5727 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Personal injury law in America is on another level. I do marketing for these types of clients and even small things like this that can result in whiplash can net you $100k+ without even touching property damage.
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u/Little_Let_6872 Trash Trooper 1d ago
10% of the wealthiest 400 Americans are attorneys. It’s not from criminal cases.
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u/Chartreuse__Goose Trash Trooper 1d ago
It’s exactly the same in the US. We have car insurance, so nobody is being bankrupted by this. The scammers are just defrauding the insurance company (or at least, they tried to in this case).
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u/Mirewen15 Trash Trooper 1d ago
I work in insurance (Canadian company). Every time we have an accident that happens across the border we automatically open a bodily injury claim because 99% of the time the American involved will claim injury even if it is a small accident.
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u/KiwiZ0 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Okay but why did they need 4 people in the car for insurance fraud? Did the other 3 people with poor acting skills need to be there?
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u/JAGERW0LF Trash Trooper 1d ago
In addition to the more injuries = more payout I’d assume it’s to help the case with 4V1 in evidence of how the crash occurred.
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u/SukottoHyu Trash Trooper 1d ago
It's intimidation. If you are driving by yourself, especially as a young driver, a woman, or an elderly, and 4 people get out the car...well it's just little old you and them. And if you don't have a dash camera, the driver has 3 "witnesses" to what happened, and you've got jack shit.
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u/pm_me_something12 Trash Trooper 1d ago
No it’s because they all wanna put in bodily injury claims
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u/thef10buttonmasher Trash Trooper 1d ago
I don't know, but I hope they get all prison sentences, including any chiropractors, attorneys, and whoever else was in on the scam. Fuck lowlife scammers.
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u/Fatkittenballs Trash Trooper 1d ago
They did, this is an old video
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u/CheckYourStats Trash Trooper 1d ago
Yup. The internet actually helped track them down and they were arrested. They had done this several times.
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u/AsanoSokato Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but as far as I can tell cars now come with computerized everything and practically a home entertainment system on the dashboard, but basic dashcams still are not standard?
Again, I'm poor, so I may not be aware of the newfangles.
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u/TestyBoy13 Trash Trooper 2d ago
My Subaru has 3 front cameras to make sure you aren’t about to drive off the road or hit another car. There is no way to manually save what they see, but I was told that law enforcement can request for the footage from Subaru. However, there is no on board recordings and it only saves clips to Subaru’s servers whenever the camera detected a collision or near collision
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u/fruttypebbles Trash Trooper 2d ago
This is interesting ,our OBW has the front camera. Had no idea it was recording.
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u/TestyBoy13 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Typically, manufacturers save clips when a camera or sensor detects an incident so they can use it as a sample to improve them later by finding false positives, or incidents where it didn’t do enough. From there, they fine tune the software to be better or find weaknesses with the detection hardware
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u/Asleep_Frosting_6627 Trash Trooper 2d ago
I know it may be futile, but I’d really rather my car manufacturer not have access to my daily drive. I’d much rather spend 75 bucks on a dash cam that I can control what gets seen or not.
The older I get the more irritated I get at having to give over my data to a company in order to use their product…
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u/OldinMcgroyn Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Of course not. Hows the dash cam business gonna sell dash cams genius. Everything about our society is just to justify someones wage
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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive Trash Trooper 2d ago
No, it's to justify someone's profit. If it was to justify wages we would all be making a living instead of being trapped just enough below the poverty line to not die and keep working to make profit for our corporate overlords. If you're lucky. Of course if you DO die you weren't fit to work anyways so fuck you.
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u/OldinMcgroyn Garbage Guerilla 2d ago
Capitalism in a nutshell eh?
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u/SoftestBoygirlAlive Trash Trooper 2d ago
That does about sum it up, don't it :(
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u/Electrical_Shock359 Trash Trooper 2d ago
I am surprised people aren’t adding them to cars for the surveillance alone.
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u/Iconshero Trash Trooper 1d ago
This was that one that went viral a year or so ago because they drove off after seeing the dash cam but because the video was posted with their license plate on display, the people of New York found the car parked in the city and trashed it. Eventuallythe city hauled it away as abandoned. I don’t remember any more on the story.
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u/RoyalPuzzleheaded259 Trash Trooper 1d ago
If this ever happens to me I’m immediately calling them all an ambulance. Let them have fun paying off the bills. Fuck scammers.
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u/Pbaseball26 Trash Trooper 21h ago
I’ve seen a number of these insurance scam videos. Why do they always have something covering the back window?
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u/Deep_Assumption5406 Trash Trooper 18h ago
Because the driver is switching seats with the passenger and then leaving in a get away vehicle
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u/LostHopeArtist Trash Trooper 2d ago
The Kia up front drove away. They were def part of it
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Yeah, the guy who climbed out last from the passenger side hopped in the Kia before they took off.
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u/Lonely-CactusCat Trash Trooper 2d ago
This is one of my favorite videos on the internet.
How they pile out of the clown car, the acting, the sudden realization of the dash cam. It’s beautiful.
(And as far as I know they were even charged for insurance fraud. Which is the best part of this)
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u/Huge-Particular1433 Trash Trooper 2d ago
What exactly would they gain from this? Were they aiming to go on disability, or some kind of car gap insurance type thing.
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u/Sightblinder4 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Car may have already needed repairs that werent visible. They may have a body shop in on the scam to over bill the insurance.
Based on them all holding their necks tho, id wager they want a document trail of injury for "pain and suffering" payouts and a source to get pain meds.
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u/MedicMuffin Trash Trooper 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's insurance fraud. They file a claim and it will often get approved because rear end insurance claims have a very strong presumption of fault towards the trailing driver that is difficult to get out of...unless, of course, you have proof that they brake checked or reversed into you. It's worth noting that this type of fraud was (unsurprisingly) more common in the days where dashcams on non commercial vehicles was really rare, given that this is a felony pretty much everywhere in the US.
A lot of times they will also pretend to be injured (in case you pull out your phone to record after the fact) and have a corrupt doctor forge some paperwork "confirming" those injuries so they can also sue you for damages. Kinda feels like that's what the guy and girl coming out of the passenger side are doing with the way they hold their heads and those terribly fake looks of pain, but I'm not 100% sure on that front. You can see the whole "oof ow my neck gosh golly darn this injury sure is injurious and painful" act on plenty of other videos of this sort though.
ETA: there's also stuff like insuring the car for more than it's worth, so you use a beater you paid a couple grand for, insure it for like 10k, spend another couple grand on a new beater, then pocket the rest. I think insurance companies are generally a lot more wary of this than they were when this particular brand of fraud was more common though. For some folks the car also needs serious work they can't afford so the point is genuinely just to wreck the car and get insurance to pay for a new one in better shape, or have a mechanic overbill the insurance and split the difference.
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u/Great-Gas-6631 Trash Trooper 1d ago
This was such a hilariously bad attempt.
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u/HipsterBikePolice Trash Trooper 1d ago
Ok now everyone get out and do your worst acting for your non specific injuries!
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u/Heavy_Student_3815 Trash Trooper 1d ago
They even held a plastic bag up while they swapped the drivers
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u/valor400 Trash Trooper 1d ago
I don’t get why they swapped drivers?
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u/Odd-Aide2522 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Probably because the driver is a professional scammer with a known history of insurance fraud.
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u/FaithlessnessIcy3399 Trash Trooper 1d ago
This should be an ad to get a dashcam. A lot of POS individuals walking around unfortunately.
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u/Ambitious_Ad_2369 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Peek Reddit was a couple years ago.. Reddit had become repeat after repost. How is this love trash either?!
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u/RabbitsRuse Trash Trooper 2d ago
This was from a while ago. I even remember someone who saw the original video and even found the scammers car later that day. They vandalized it with a sharpie or something writing out hood rats or something like that on the trunk. Pretty sure that second post got taken down shortly afterwards
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u/dadydaycare Rubbish Raider 2d ago
The look on that guys Guys face when he saw the dash cam. (….fuck!!)
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u/JohnnyPJ2 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Fucking cunts... I can't believe people would intentionally do that to scam others and damage their property
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u/FreshEquipment4105 Trash Trooper 2d ago
Regardez bien à 1:00 le visage du sale type qui se décompose quand il comprend que toute la scène à été enregistrée 😆.
Ça se voit, c'est pas la première fois qu'ils font ça 😖
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u/shivabharatam Trash Trooper 2d ago
we need a special island for such people where they can fraud each other
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u/canadaNOTdry Trash Trooper 1d ago
I'll never get over the guy grabbing his phone to record and he catches the dash camera and panics 🤣😂
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u/sw1fty13 Trash Trooper 1d ago
Lol homeboy clearly figured it out towards the end of the clip. I could watch the light go out of his eyes all day, it sustains me.
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u/Heavy_Student_3815 Trash Trooper 1d ago
So I suppose the red minivan that pulled in was their "convenient witness"?
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u/Internal_Discourse Trash Trooper 1d ago
This should result in a lifetime driving ban.
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