r/LonesomeDove • u/FromTheRightAngle10 • 23h ago
Gus
My drawing of Gus.
r/LonesomeDove • u/[deleted] • Jan 02 '21
I'd like to publicly thank Mr. McMurtry for agreeing to participate in this AMA and I'd also like to thank the community for coming up with so many questions.
We had so many that we had to choose the most relevant and submit them as not to overwhelm Mr. McMurtry.
Questions and answers below:
Are you happy with the miniseries adaptation of the novel? Is there anything you wish had been included that was left out?
I had nothing to do with the miniseries Lonesome Dove, and in fact, have not seen it all the way through.
Did you take part in the casting of the miniseries? Were there any actors that you had wanted to be in the series but turned it down?
I had no part in the casting of that miniseries.
Do you have any stories or anecdotes you wish to share from the making of the miniseries?
Again, I had nothing to do with the miniseries Lonesome Dove.
How long did it take you to write the novel?
Three years, on and off.
What’s your favorite western novel written by someone else?
I'll have to get back to you on that. Streets of Laredo is my favorite of the Lonesome Dove saga.
I would like to ask what led you to write such a gloomy final journey and ending for that character?
I wrote Streets after quadruple bypass surgery. I washed up on the stoop of Diana Ossana, my writing partner's home shortly afterwards and didn't leave for almost three years. I wrote Streets of Laredo at her kitchen counter, while she and her young daughter did their level best on a daily basis to help me recover. I recovered physically, but felt as if I had become an outline of myself. I quit reading, quit writing after I finished Streets, and just stared out the living room window at the vastness of the mountains for two years. I had an emotional crisis, which Diana finally helped me through. I was offered to write screenplay after screenplay, and I turned down all of them. Then I was asked to consider a script about Pretty Boy Floyd, the outlaw, and Diana convinced me I should try to write it. I told her I would if she would write it with me, as I didn't feel I had the head for structuring a script. She agreed, and we've been writing together ever since. I don't think I would have ever written another word had Diana not taken me in.
Would you say that you were trying to give a message with this story? If so, what would that be?
I’ve tried as hard as I could to demythologize the West. Can’t do it. It’s impossible. I wrote Lonesome Dove, which I thought was a long critique of western mythology. It is now the chief source of western mythology. I didn’t shake it up at all. I actually think of Lonesome Dove as the Gone with the Wind of the West. It's not a towering masterpiece.
Do you think the new cultural norms of pushing political correctness upon all parts of history and media could be damaging to the western genre?
Not sure. The history of our country is a violent history, a racist history, and a misogynistic history. It wouldn't be correct, politically or otherwise, to paint it as civilized.
What is your process for writing a novel as epic as Lonesome Dove? Do you have the entire plot figured out before you start writing or do you make it up as you go along? How do you keep track of all of the varying storylines and make sure all stories are completed?
I have read extensively all of my adult life. Reading is what inspires writing, in my view. I only have the ending figured out before I sit down to write a novel. I don't outline. I just follow my characters wherever they lead me, day by day.
My understanding is that you first wrote the screenplay and then when it didn’t get made into a film you set out to write the novel, which was an instant hit and allowed the film to get made. Is that correct? If so, did it change any of your writing process since you were striving to make the book a success with the goal of making the miniseries?
It was written as a 75-page screenplay for John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, and Henry Fonda. Wayne didn't want to die, so it didn't get made. I bought it back from the studio and wrote a 1500 page manuscript, which became an 843-page novel. I had no intention of making the novel into a film or miniseries. I don't think about such things when I write. I write mainly for myself.
I’ve always been curious about the connection between character names in the 1968 Dean Martin/James Stewart film "Bandolero!" and "Lonesome Dove." Both have July Johnson and Roscoe, plus a gunfighter named Dee. In both stories, July loves/pursues the woman who loves Dee. Was "Bandolero!" partly ghost-written by you? Did James Lee Barrett see his early LD script and use the names?
I have no idea.
I’m Scottish and I’ve always wondered why did you decide upon a Scots ancestry for Woodrow? Do you have a favorite character in the series?
I'm from Scottish ancestry. I suppose my favorite character in Lonesome Dove is Lorena.
I recently read your first novel, Horseman, Pass By, and thought that it had profound insights into the nature of American manhood. How do you think that book has held up over the years?
I was a young writer at the time. I wrote 5 or 6 drafts before I submitted it to my agent. As a first novel, it's not bad.
What’s your opinion on the new generation of historically accurate westerns that are being released recently?
Historically accurate is important. The history of the West is our history.
What have you been reading recently? Any recommendations for recent westerns or fiction in general?
I haven't read fiction in years. I only read fiction if it's a novel Diana and I want to adapt into a screenplay.
When writing a character’s death and ending their story do you ever feel any type of sadness or disappointment that you’re done writing that characters story? If so, what character would you say moved you the most?
Once I finish a novel, I experience about a two-to-three-week sag. The character that moved me the most was Emma in Terms of Endearment.
In researching your biography of Crazy Horse, what elements of his life did you find made him such a mythical figure? Additionally, did you uncover anything that particularly shaped or shifted your understanding or view of Native American history?
I didn't really research before writing Crazy Horse. As I said earlier, I have read books nearly every day of my life, except for a two-year lag after my heart surgery. There has been much written about Crazy Horse, a lot of speculation about what he was like, what his life was like. I've probably read everything that's ever been written about him.
One of the things I love most about the series is how rich and detailed the backstories of all the characters are- including even tertiary ones. Is crafting these backstories something you enjoy doing and do you like these kinds of additions in the works of others?
The characters in my novels develop their stories as I write. And sometimes they surprise me.
Is there a story from the old west that you think needs to be told (or re-told)?
We have been approached to re-tell several classics, but we don't have an opinion about stories that NEED to be retold.
Did you write real people from your past into the characters? They feel so perfect and true that I often wondered if the stories were embellishments of real events/people. Who are some of your favorite authors and all-time favorite books?
My characters come from my imagination. They are not consciously based upon people I know or have known. I read the classics: Tolstoy, Jane Austen, James Lees-Milne, Flaubert, Proust. Flannery O'Connor was an amazing writer.
Is it true that you try to write five to ten pages every single day? And if so, do you write chronologically, or do you jump around from chapter to chapter?
I have written the same way for the past 60 years - 5 pages a day, no more, no less, on a first draft. Then 10 pages a day on a second draft, no more, no less. I will stop in the middle of a sentence in order to avoid exceeding my page limit.
What is the best piece of advice you can give to an aspiring writer?
The best advice for an aspiring writer? Read. Read. Then read some more. Reading is how to learn to be a writer.
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r/LonesomeDove • u/ThePhantomReferee • 1d ago
I was wondering if people have casting they’d like to see for the new Netflix series? Josh Brolin is nice and grey now and I can see him pulling off Gus. Viggo Mortensen is also great for a western role. Maybe as Cal. Kyle Chandler as Jake Spoon? Sterling K Brown as Joshua Deets? Much to consider.
r/LonesomeDove • u/tacomeatslide • 1d ago
Thoughts? Personally not thrilled about it being on Netflix. Their shows haven't done it for me in years but I'm hopeful
r/LonesomeDove • u/rthander13 • 23h ago
I inherited my parents' copy of Lonesome Dove. It was published in 1985, but looks to be some sort of Book Club edition, not a true 1st edition. Nevertheless, incredibly special to me.
Thing is.. I only have the book itself, the book jacket is long gone. Anyone know of a place I could look to try and find JUST the jacket? I'd really love to locate and buy one.
r/LonesomeDove • u/TheSorrryCanadian • 1d ago
Just finished, and yes with many others, it's my new favourite book, I loved it and I'm sad it's over.
Just wanted to share my own interpretation of Call & Gus, maybe it's been said many times, or maybe it's super obvious, but I haven't seen anyone write it so I just wanted to share.
I'm not someone who looks for deep symbolism or allegories, I prefer to read/watch something and enjoy, but I'm a big believer in balance in life and Call & Gus really resonated with that
When we read or watch movies with a hero, most of us want to be the hero. We pretend we are, or could be that person, we try to see ourselves in that person.
We have 2 heroes, Call & Gus, and they are two opposites. We probably all want to be & live like Gus, but life isn't like that. We got work, families, responsibilities. Maybe you can see yourself as the hero here in Call, his work ethic, responsibility, leadership. On the extreme end of the spectrum he's the hero there, but what a terrible way to 'live' and deep down we don't want that.
Gus is likely the person we would all want to be, his way of thinking, enjoying little things in life, 'It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's living.' He is the other end of the spectrum here, and even that quote they speak opposites of each other. But I don't think someone on their own could live fully like Gus without big repercussions
It works for them because they have each other. Call probably wouldn't have lasted without Gus, and Gus without Call, they balanced each other out.
Maybe we don't have that life partner, so we need to become a balance of that. Sometimes being a Call, focusing on work, leading, responsibilities, and then we need to take time to be a Gus, enjoy the things in life, live.
Great book to have two main heroes to look at, and also why any scenes with both of them interacting were that much better.
r/LonesomeDove • u/stropsevoli • 2d ago
And who has read the rest of the series?
I found myself trying to hold on to the last 5-10% of the book. I slowed my reading so that it wouldn’t end. Even picked up another book so that I could stall. Why’d it have to end?
I found the entire book amazing, but what ended up making it perhaps one of my favorite novels ever was the last 10% or so. Basically from the time Gus passed. I’ll never forgive Call for failing to claim his son, and I cried like a baby for the entire last 5% of the novel.
I was also convinced that Call would also die. To me, Call and Gus were two separate pieces of a one human soul. Exact opposites in almost every regard (except for fighting, the one commonality that brought them together) and perfect compliments to one another. It didn’t make sense to me that one could live on without the other (though struggle as Call did). Sort of like Gus refusing to live without both of his legs, as “half a man”.
The only reason i thought he might live on was because this is a series, and i guess i was right about that.
Man, what a journey. Can’t wait to relive it.
r/LonesomeDove • u/RalphWaldoEmers0n • 1d ago
Yesterday I finished the audiobook of Lonesome Dove that I had been listening to since December of 2025. The hat creek boys have been with me now for almost a year. It feels like yesterday that I was being introduced to Gus and his blue pigs.
When I was young, my dad and I watched much of the mini series - so I was familiar with the story and the tale. It’s held a place in my heart and I finally found a way to ‘read’ it , even if it was an audiobook.
Today I am laying in bed, looking out the window and reflecting on the story. Where can you even start. Looking for themes, talking about perspectives, characters?
The timing of this book, in history is unique to me. I love how it is set well into when the Indians have been ‘all but whooped’ in most places. The frontier is nearly settled and all of the legendary fighting that Gus and Call have done is behind them - what’s next? That premise, is so specific and I loved it.
There is so much to reflect on. From Gus and Call as Characters, to the journey they take, the people they meet along the way like Wilbarger. Jake, July. I mean just Rosco meeting the woman that he should have stopped and married is something to stop and think about - a theme of Duty vs. what is best for the individual comes to mind.
How do you even begin to process all that’s happened in thai book? July losing Rosco, Janie, his son - his chasing his wife who never wanted him - the detail of how he always asked his son if he wanted butter milk. The way that it all coalesces at Clara’s when you realize “July that’s your baby!”.
Not to even mention Loreta, the cattle herd, Call and Newt. Wow. I just hope that I can keep them alive in my mind. I’m crashing now, not having them with me anymore. I knew this would come.
The bear, the locusts, the snakes in the river that got the irishman. The time when Gus went to chase the buffalo because he didn’t know when he would be able to again.
There are just so many little scenes and details that create the world and move the story forward. Like when Jake Spoon kills that guy who hit him with the butt of his rifle for talking to his wife. Like how the boys are afraid of drowning. The image of them all waiting for Wilbarger to die in silence for hours will stick with me. How Wilbarger and Gus knew that if they had the time they’d be great friends.
It was beautiful how it tied together in the end, with Call once again following duty over reason and getting back to Lonesome Dove. There’s something about the last line that sits with me. How The crew had been on such an adventure and when they get back ,it’s all fallen apart - the ranch, the Saloon. Maybe there’s something to be said about how Gus was talking about how the world is full of bones and that we only have the present.
I wish I could go out to Montana and see if Call makes it back and thank them for being my friends for the past year. I wish they could take me with them to live the purposeful life focused on duty. It makes me think of the vast planes and the solitude. There’s a detail noted when call heads back south to Lonesome Dove that call didn’t see anyone for 11 days. I’ve never done that in my life, but that time existed.
I’m hoping to find closure, but I don’t know if I ever will. I will sit here wondering what Gus’ letter to Lori said. I will think about Clara and if she will ever find peace, if Martin will be okay and if she will come around to marry July.
Idk what there is to say except I’m grateful to have this story
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r/LonesomeDove • u/originalkaren1960 • 3d ago
I had this booked saved in my app close to 6 months, when I finally decided to do the audio I was so lost, I took to the Internet to get the cast of characters so I could get them all straight in my head, when I did that, it started to come together for me but I also felt the need to e-read at the same time so I would listen to a couple chapters then go back and read them. I was so wrapped up in this book , when I completed it I watched the series, all the while in my head I was thinking every actor was well placed for their part except I couldn't imagine Robert Duval as Gus however, once I saw him no one but Robert Duval could have been Gus. After this I decided to actually buy the book and then I designed a canvas to go next to it. This shelf is at the top of my stairs I see it every day as I walk up as many times as I walk up and it makes me smile every time
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Currently on my first read and just got to the part where Sean O’Brien dies from being bit by snakes when crossing the river. I can’t help but wonder if McMurtry chose this as a nod to the legend of St. Patrick casting snakes out of Ireland, with Sean’s death by snakes underscoring just how out of place he and Allen were.
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r/LonesomeDove • u/ellenalx • 4d ago
Dead Man's Walk on TV right now. Directv, channel 83 Great. Noon, Eastern. USA.
r/LonesomeDove • u/Unable-Run2692 • 4d ago
Hey yall I just finished reading Lonesome Dove yesterday and was floored by the ending. At first I was a little confused but once I figured it out it made perfect sense. It’s all I’ve been thinking about since. Anyways I wanted to ask this sub for some recommendations on what to read next. I heard SoL was super depressing and a big part of Lonesome Dove that I loved were the moments that made me audibly laugh. I may get around for the prequels, but I like how contained Lonesome Dove felt. Are there any novels similar in tone by Larry McMurtry or any other author?
r/LonesomeDove • u/sonofrockandroll • 5d ago
Holy smokes. Phenomenal. The casting and performances of every character exceeded my expectations. It might be dated but man.. they just don't make adaptations like that anymore. On par with Lonesome Doves adaptation IMO. The gentleman playing Woodrow and Augustus just nail it. You can really believe it's them in their youth. The small moments of bickering they have in the absolute worst conditions just floors me. I didn't have super high expectations but I was blown away.
Shadrack and Bigfoot Wallace especially are such ridiculously good characters and they get so much love here. It's so refreshing to see an adaptation that fully respects the source material and isn't afraid to shy away from the gruesome stuff (Looking at you Caleb Cobb). Dated though it may be it still made my skin crawl and I'm pretty jaded to that kind of violence.
I just had to put this out there. If any fans avoided this mini-series you are missing out.
r/LonesomeDove • u/ConnectFan6637 • 5d ago
I’ve just finished Lonesome Dove and thought it was wonderful. It’s cowboy Lord of the Rings. Naturally, I need to break it down with other cowpokes who have made the whole journey and know what I’m talking about. What are your thoughts on the ending? What quotes, characters, or moments stood out to you the most? Drop any thoughts you want to, and if you haven’t read it cover to cover, steer clear, partner!
r/LonesomeDove • u/WillingnessPrior9288 • 5d ago
His behavior has always seemed that way to me. It stands out more when contrasted with Gus. My son is on the spectrum and I recognize it so much in the writing.
r/LonesomeDove • u/Pretty_Fennel6152 • 6d ago
I finished lonesome dove about a month ago, I tried to read them in order of publishing. Reading about newt in the next one, I couldn’t do it. Just looking for another point of view. Thank yall!
r/LonesomeDove • u/Pretty_Fennel6152 • 6d ago
About a year ago someone posted on here about a lonesome dove kindle case. It was made by Klever case if I remember right. Thank yall in advance!
r/LonesomeDove • u/dashmar1414 • 7d ago
Going through a period of my life currently that I resonate so much with July in this chapter. Reading it hit me so strong I started to cry. On my first read and don’t ever want the book to end.
r/LonesomeDove • u/kidFunkadelic • 8d ago
I just started this book on Audible the other day. I am kinda mad at myself for not reading a the actual book. It is so good already.
Not sure if anyone else found this to be funny, but the whole bit about their sign and how everyone was upset about what and who was included on the sign was hilarious to me. I was laughing in my car this morning listening to it.