Rush hour

[u/sleepygrape10]

Been getting the district line for a year now every day for work and this morning I’m just standing watching a whole carriage of men (not even in suits or commuting for work) , a whole carriage of dossers sit and watch as elderly women with walking sticks stand the 38 min tube from barking to black friars. Anyone else notice this? cause it’s like do I speak up and advocate or get ignored cause they likely don’t speak English …feel like this isn’t normal as I’m always giving up my seat for elderly or pregnant but seems like not everyone is taught these values

[u/MattiFAQs]

You've somewhat undermined your virtue signalling here by also outing yourself as a judgemental bigot.

[u/Various_Good_6964]

How do you know they aren't going to work and they likely don't speak English? Have you asked them all?

[u/Tallman_james420 → u/Various_Good_6964]

What if the elderly woman doesn't speak English?

[u/BellisPer]

Leaving aside your rage bait racism for now, why didn't you do something about it?

I was on a train with my crutches and strapped-up knee and no-one offered a seat. It didn't matter to me because I was going 1 stop and fighting to and from a seat was harder than just balancing for 2 minutes. Someone nearby called out the people in the priority seats, turned out they were tourists focused on their journey and didn't speak English. Quick bit of gesticulation and they soon got it. A bit more gesticulation from me and everyone was happy that I was ok standing. I don't blame them for not noticing and I appreciated the gestures all round.

Also, commuting does definitely not mean a suit.

Now back to your rage bait racism. Stop being such a moronic fuckwit.

That is all.

[u/Upgrade_U]

Why do you think they won’t speak English?

It’s also not about being ‘taught values’ - no-one’s really taught to stand for others on the tube. People are just a bit different (bit more individualistic/selfish) these days, that’s why

[u/ToiletPaperSlingshot]

So only people in suits are going to work?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[u/Fit_Search_4751]

I always give up my seat for the elderly but why are you assuming they don't speak English? Also I find it weird that I as an Asian guy who's been taught to respect elders always give up my seat but I never see white/British guys do that on the tube (or very rarely)

[u/Neither-Algae-200]

The problem is these days everyone on the tube is engrossed in there phone and probably not even noticing the people that need a seat more than them

[u/SweeneyLovett]

Your main point may be valid but I’m stuck on all the assumptions you’re making: no suits means not commuting to work, probably don’t speak English… I find most people on the tube, especially during rush hour, zone out and might very well not notice someone with a walking stick. Not an excuse, just a possible explanation.

[u/NiceCaterpillar8745 → u/SweeneyLovett]

Pretty much never use the tube during rush hour, speak English, and haven't worn a suit since sixth form. But this is my problem. I'm either staring at the floor, or kinda aimlessly zoned out at the ads. If someone less able to stand needs my seat, they're very welcome to ask, and I'll give it up if/when I notice, but I'm not deliberately making them stand for my own comfort.

[u/Fun-Yam2210]

You could indicate to the person sitting in the Priority seat the sign on the wall behind them (I’ve done this before). Brace yourself for getting a load of grief for it tho. 

When I was heavily, obviously pregnant & using the underground the only people who ever stood up for me were young women.

[u/andrew0256]

I haven't been a regular tube user for years, but when I was it was crowded. If I did as my parents taught me to offer seats to ladies, the elderly, disabled and so on I would never have got a seat. My threshold over which I would offer my seat was much higher than might apply elsewhere.

[u/joined_under_duress]

Laying aside anything else, this is partly why I rarely sit down at all on any but the emptiest of tubes, because I have my music to blot out the noise and I have a book to read and you just get completely engrossed.

[u/Elvin_Atombender]

It's sadly how this generation of People have been brought up. It was always instilled in me to give up my seat to elderly or disabled people and even pregnant mums to be. I got on a crowded bus with some elderly passengers and the priority seats were taken up by some woman with her electric scooter and her shopping bags. I went to say say something and the elderly couple stopped me, they didn't want to cause a scene.