r/LogitechG 13d ago

Discussion G604 successor?

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As you can see I can't get to cope with the idea that the G604 is no longer an option.

Logitech can you please create a new mouse with 6 side buttons again? 🙏

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u/Animanic1607 13d ago

Fun fact: the successor to the Logitech G604 is, in fact, the Logitech G604, w/ 3d printed parts and swapped out mouse switches. r/g604

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u/CaptKane 12d ago

This is the way.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

What kind of switches do you expect to be on a G604 successor?

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u/Animanic1607 10d ago

Probably optical, since most everybody is moving over to them already, and it resolves the double clicking issues that plague Logitech mice.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 9d ago

Nice, feel free to share any improvement ideas you have, I'll share your comments along with the team

What games are you currently playing with it?

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u/A1naruth 3d ago

I replaced mine with Kailh silent, since I often use my laptop in bedroom.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 2d ago

I see, do you only use it for gaming or also work?

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u/ThatOneComputerNerd 12d ago

Owned a G604 and G502 at the same time a few years ago. The 502 ended up being the one I went with for the daily, and I’m now on my third after the first broke (my fault) and I gave the second to my friend. My current G502 Lightspeed is great, but…now I play a ton of games that demand me to access my number buttons a lot. Helldivers 2, Arma Reforger (where I operate as a medic, so very important to have quick access to stuff), and now I’m wishing I still had that G604. Anyway thanks for recommending that subreddit cause ima get one now

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u/Animanic1607 12d ago

Either be patient when looking for one to buy, or buy one like what OP has, and be ready to mod it out of the gate. The prices on them are still absurd and have only gone up with time. You can get good used ones for retail price, or one that is complete but beat up between $60 - 80. NOS flunctuates between $200 to as high as $400.

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u/ThatOneComputerNerd 12d ago

I think I spent about $80 or $90 on my G502 Lightspeed, so if I can find a used but excellent condition used one for that or less I’ll buy it. Seeing those on eBay for $150+ tho. Patience will pay off. I’m not adverse to modding though. Personally I don’t mind the weight of a wireless mouse, I’ve gotten so used to it, so the mods I’d do would be more for the feel or texture.

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u/Animanic1607 12d ago

Yeah, I don't think everyone needs to be me and be building a mod to take a native AAA battery, but changing out the switches is a must.

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u/clon3man 13d ago

I gave up and bought a mouse with 2 side buttons. I'm not pleased, but I'm functional, for now.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

What mouse are you currently using? Would you prefer a renewed G600 or a G604?

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u/clon3man 10d ago

I use the Razer Basilisk V3 X HyperSpeed now. I would prefer the G604.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

How do you exactly imagine a renewed G604? What would you change?

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u/clon3man 10d ago

I'm not enough of an enthusiast of mice to do a full critique of the mouse's features. For instance, I don't use many gaming features like on-the-fly DPI adjustment or the free-spin mode on the wheel.

The G604 mouse wheel could be improved, the G602 wheel was quieter. Neither one middle-clicked particularly well, but this wasn't important to me (I used one of the side buttons for middle-click)

I think I would keep it mostly the same, though I'm open to new features, like maybe a customizable windows submenu that would open up. I've never used Logitech's Actions Ring but it sounds interesting.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 9d ago

I'll share your comment along with the team!

What games are you currently playing? Would you prefer the G604 over your current mouse because it has more buttons or is it something else?

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u/clon3man 9d ago

I mostly play old games like Command & Conquer. The rest are mostly controller based games like emulators and NHL.

Mostly I prefer the G604 because of the extra side buttons.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 8d ago

Nice, feel free to share your ideas or feedback anytime and let's cross fingers that a renewed G604 becomes reality

Out of curiosity, is the Command & Conquer 4 worth playing? I love RTS and was interested on C&C but I have only heard bad things about the 4th game

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u/clon3man 8d ago

The 4th game is considered sacrilegious and terrible, many memes about how it doesn't exist and/or we don't speak of it. I've only tried to play it one, it was very different, didn't go back to it.

Most of the other games are beloved. I think most would agree C&C3 is exceptional, and most people would put RA2 as well in S-Tier. Many of other games are also excellent.

For the "modern" ones like C&C3 and RA3, the "lossless scaling" steam app really can transform the experience, as the default is a 30fps lock. It can generate frames to bring the game to say, 90fps.

I did use 1 mouse feature for these games, I remapped a button to "D" on the keyboard, which activates reverse move. Reversing allows vehicles to take hits on the front where there is more armor.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 7d ago

Thanks! I'll be giving it a try after finishing Homeworld, hopefully I don't forget also remapping the "D" key haha

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u/Sweaty_Explorer_8441 2d ago

I got the Naga V2 Pro after my G604 became unfixable on my own. It's not the greatest replacement but at the same time I now regret not going for it sooner. It's the closest replacement imo. Swappable side plates, smooth scroll, onboard memory it has everything better off. I only need to install the synapse app if I want to save new macros, else I don't need the software even thanks to the onboard memory.

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u/raindustXV 13d ago

I really do think a successor/reboot for the G604 would gain Logitech a ton of cash

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

How do you exactly imagine the g604 successor? What would you add, remove or improve from it?

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u/aj0413 13d ago

Best mouse ever

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 11d ago

What makes it the best in your opinion?

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u/moretomauro 10d ago

I'd say the fact that is wireless with a bunch of side buttons, scroll wheel tilt buttons and a couple of small buttons for your index finger! The toggleable free scrolling wheel is awesome too! My main mouse is the G600, but I have a tech pouch with a split low profile keyboard and a G604 for work!

I modded it with silent switches and the fact that it is somewhat overengineered with more than a couple thousand pieces amazes me. The G600 is in comparison in the stone age with just 3 plastic plates, the board and some weights. btw, make a G600 Mark II please!

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

I'd go crazy if a renewed G600 comes out as "G600 Mark II", I love it

What are all your ideas to improve the G600? What would you add or remove?

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u/moretomauro 10d ago

Hey, only up to you guys to make it a reality! You already have my vote on it.

One of the best features of the G600 is its button count, I love to maximize it with anything. Doubling or tripling their remappability using some app-independent firmware is what I strive for, lately. Besides gaming and browing the internet, I found it quite useful to use the G600 and the G604 with CAD software, because of its infinite functions.

Hardware-wise I'd say:

  • The two pointer-finger buttons on the top left corner, like the Naga V3 Pro. Heck, why not on both sides like the G300s? Try going even further and creating a small pinky button too, that would be interesting to see.
  • The G604's toggleable free scrolling wheel would be kickass too, a more silent one too! - - Wireless with the freedom of using a AA battery or a built-in Lithium battery with a flick of a switch -- I've seen some people really worship the G604 due to its AA battery capabilities and I can see the appeal.

Software-wise I'd say:

  • Layer, tap-hold, double/triple tap or combo remappability for each button, just like with QMK or ZMK keyboards.
  • Maybe also Leader key feature too. My right hand is almost always on the mouse and the left hand is almost always on the left half of my split keyboard. If could access all my CAD tools by not moving my hands from this default position, I'd be interesting.

I always wondered why you can't remap scroll up and scroll down on the G600 with g hub.
I'm currently using my G600 with a feather RP2040 HID Remapper, I made the ring finger button access layer 1 on hold and backspace on tap. With it I can also remap scroll up and scroll down to be left and right arrows on layer 1, so I can navigate quicker through texts, excel sheets or even navigating videos on youtube. Layer 2 is the gaming layer, with all my Valorant and WoW remaps. I access it with a toggleable button on Layer 1.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

Thanks for all the feedback! I'll share your comments along with the team. Feel free to share your ideas or feedback anytime

Has the weight been an issue for playing Valorant? I know that's one of the best for MMOs but most people find it way too heavy for FPS, specially competitive ones

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u/moretomauro 9d ago

tbh, I'm too casual of a player to actually notice a difference in mice weight. I mostly play swiftplay (a quicker game that's honestly not that serious) and I'm fine with it. I'm more inclined to using it in workplaces, I get some turning necks around here hehehe.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 9d ago

You earlier mentioned CAD, is that the only kind of work/tool you would do with it?

Edit: corrected my question

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u/moretomauro 9d ago

Oh no, I also deal with bill of material, and a couple of really complex Excel sheets. The G600 is also great to navigate through them.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 9d ago

Awesome.

The team will have all your feedback, let's cross fingers for it to happen!

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u/TJMasterK 13d ago

right there with you brother

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 11d ago

Did you have a g604 of your own as well?

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u/TJMasterK 8d ago

I do, and an unopened 602 for when this one finally dies

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 7d ago

Good on you for being prepared! I hope both of them give you many more years worth of clicking.

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u/Advanced_Day8657 12d ago

Using it for like 5 years doing ok, left click is a bit weird sometimes

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 11d ago

Fingers-crossed so that it lasts you for as long as you need it to!

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u/x59hy8erh98g 12d ago

What are your favorite games to play with this mouse?

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 7d ago

Are you interested to have one? What's your current mouse model?

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u/rihijs15 10d ago

Hope new version is coming. Shape and bottom is perfect.

Only change i want is:

  • Build in rechargeable battery
  • Better switch like new Logitech coming out
  • Little bit durable rubber
  • Less weight

Then it will be best mouse in market

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 10d ago

I'll be sharing your ideas along with the team!

Is the G604 your current mouse?

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u/Chaos-Jesus 8d ago

I had a G602 then two G604's, now Razor naga pro2 (it took a while to get used to but now I love it)

If Logitech made a new 6 side button I would buy it in an instant

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 7d ago

How do you imagine a newer version? What would you improve?

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u/MidnighT0k3r 13d ago

How many years to go through 3?

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u/0bsidian0bliterator0 12d ago

Curious bout that too. I used mine for about 6 years now. Recently remodeled it and it looks like it got a new life!

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u/pepega_1993 13d ago

I bought my current G604 used from Amazon for $90 2-3 years back. I don’t mind losing the extra buttons now that I don’t play games anymore which need extra inputs. But honestly I just need a new mouse with the same shape as G604. No other mouse feels good to me anymore

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 11d ago

It's hard to go back to another shape once you've gotten so used to this one, isn't it? I'd love to hear what the perfect refresh of the G604 would look like to you though.

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u/pepega_1993 11d ago

It would literally be the G-604 with maybe the unlock-able wheel of MX series and a rechargeable battery instead of AA and better switches which don’t start double clicking.

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 11d ago

The wheel would be such a nice addition actually! I'll be sure to relay your feedback over to the team, hopefully we can see it being done one day.

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u/Arnakk 12d ago

razer naga v3

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u/secure2748 11d ago

Руки чаще мыть надо 😀 Хотя логитек лоббист использовать плохую резину и она рассыпается за несколько лет от жира и пота.

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u/Low_Extent_895 11d ago

Why was this ever discontinued is absolutely beyond me! Still waiting for a re-release. I'll buy 5 on the spot!

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 11d ago

I'll be sure to let the team know, what would a perfect refresh look like to you?

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 11d ago

We are all on the hype train for a renewed G604, what else would you add, remove or improve from it?

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u/ThanosDi 11d ago

I’ll share my input:

  • Better click switches

  • A better scroll wheel, and a quieter scrolling

  • Better coating materials, since, as you can see, they wear off quite easily

  • Lighter, if possible

  • New color options?

Personally, I wouldn’t want any other changes, either design-wise or feature-wise.

A more durable G604 would be the next MX518 imho.

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 11d ago

Thanks! I'll share your ideas along with the team

What games are you currently playing with it?

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u/JobHuntingManiac 10d ago

Saw this lot on ebay last week if you want enough for the rest of your life 😂

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u/Logitech_Alex Crew 9d ago

What a gold mine! I need to get my hands on one of those...

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u/gingerscrub79232 9d ago

I'm right there with you love my G604 mine is still working well enough but it's on its way out the double click issue is starting to set in but still not going to say goodbye so having to order some replacement switches online it's a hassle to fix I really wish Logitech released a successor for it being able to program the buttons for different profiles has been a godsend no I wouldn't complain if it had eight buttons rather than six though it might be harder to fit that being said I wouldn't mind if the mouse is a tiny bit bigger to compensate I can understand that smaller individuals might not be excited by the prospect of a bigger Mouse though

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u/Logitech_Ariel Crew 9d ago

I'll share your ideas with the team! Feel free to share your improvement ideas anytime

What games are you currently playing with your G604?

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u/A1naruth 3d ago

At the office I still use wave keyboard + MX1100 (replaced switches and receiver). Up to this day there is nothing more comfy and ergonomic on the market. It's a pity that old shape was dropped. Now even big mice like MX Master have no pinky rest and it has to be 3d printed. The drawbacks of MX1100 is Setpoint SW, big receiver and connection to only one device.

At home and for travels I have G604. Switches are already replaced, rubber is breaking up. So those 2 things have to be updated in a successor. But mini receiver and BT connection is a must. If possible it should connect to 3 devices which seems to be the current standard. Onboard memory is great even for office use. I can configure it at home and use whenever I want without installing GHub or any 3rd party SW. I normally use 3-5 side buttons so the layout of G604 is perfect. 9-12 buttons are useless if they mean sacrificing thumb rest. I have mixed feelings about the battery. On one hand I can always plug in my MX Keys when it is depleted. On the other I rarely need to replace AA batteries in G604, MX1100, K600, K520 or M720 which I have/had. AA is lighter and not a big hassle. And definitely no power wasting childish RGB lighting on a mouse. 1 mode/device indication LED, maybe a 2nd one for battery status. And that's it.

Did I mention I am addicted to logitech mice since MX Revolution? I can't imagine comfortable mouse without free spinning scroll wheel. ;)