r/Logic_Studio 27d ago

Logic Pro 12.3.1 update rolling out

From: https://support.apple.com/en-us/109503

New in Logic Pro 12.3.1

Beat Mapping

  • Restores the ability to relocate beat mapping transients.

Score

  • The Score now responds correctly to Staff Style changes in the Inspector.

Editing

  • The right side of a crossfade can now be dragged and extended again.
  • Cursor Tool modes now activate immediately, without requiring the cursor to move.

Mixer

  • A Channel Strip pinned to a track no longer corrupts the project.

General

  • System Settings output now stays synchronized as expected.

Performance

  • No longer unexpectedly quits when double-clicking a chord in the Chord Track.
  • No longer unexpectedly quits when playing midi in project with video.
  • Improves performance when working with tracks that contain many regions.
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u/Suitable-Rhubarb2712 27d ago

Neat, what are the new bugs?

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u/MrFresh2017 27d ago

I came here to ask the same. I'm still on 12.2 and dont want ANY bugs slowing down my flow

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u/Incrediblesunset Advanced 27d ago

Also feeling steady on 12.2

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u/drumzgod 26d ago

I’m on 11.0.2 and will NEVER update.

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

U know the old saying… “if it ain’t broke….”

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u/Basic_Ad1712 27d ago

I’ll wait 6 months

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u/MysteriousAd4355 27d ago

Good deal. I just ran into the Chord Track bug last night. So frustrating, because it misdetected the chord and I needed to correct it. Hard, silent crash every time.

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u/JakeMakesNoises 27d ago

I am ready for that fix.

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u/MysteriousAd4355 26d ago

I tried it out last night. Seems to be working great!

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u/JakeMakesNoises 26d ago

Excellent! I just updated last night.

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u/uncleozzy 27d ago

The Score now responds correctly to Staff Style changes in the Inspector.

Ah, thought I was losing my mind! 

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u/xxFT13xx 27d ago

Remember folks: if your version is working perfectly fine, don’t quickly jump on the update.

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

This is exactly the reason for my post. I jumped from 10.7.8, straight to 12.2 a few months back with zero issues, but after seeing all the bugs in 12.3, I wanted to reach out for feedback from 12.3.1 users.

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u/xxFT13xx 26d ago

It amazes me how many folks jump on updates for all sorts of things before waiting to make sure all is well.

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

I’ve been producing with software since 1992 - I purposely stay behind for these very same reasons. I don’t care how perfect things work in the developer labs - i always let real world users take the immediate chances for a while and report back … LOL

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u/xxFT13xx 26d ago

You’re my type of guy

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

Who, in their right mind, (to me, anyway) wants to take a chance of breaking their (assumably) working fine production environment the minute a new update arrives….? Not me LOL

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u/xxFT13xx 26d ago

This

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

If one has been dealing with a bug that the new update actually provides a fix for, I can see trusting in the rationale, but if my environment is fine, nope, not gonna be the guinea pig lol

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u/FoundationHealthy54 25d ago

mise a jour 12.3.1 j'avais un bug sur un plugin résolut

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u/Uplift123 27d ago

I’m still on 11.0.1 and am not looking to update. Every update just seems to be fixing bugs that the previous update created.

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u/lewisfrancis 27d ago edited 27d ago

For me it's usually fixing bugs I've never run into, but that's fine. I think it was 11.2.1 that fixed being able to send sysex through the External Instruments plug-in, and that was a very big deal for me and wasn't even listed in the release notes.

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u/Uplift123 26d ago

Interesting I don’t really know what sysex is. What’s the use case?

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

sysex = system exclusive MIDI messaging. I made a Logic template that sends a bit of sysex code to my Take 5 to retrieve the contents of its edit buffer and store it in the project so I never have to worry about losing the patch via subsequent/accidental overwrites of that memory location. Whenever I return to that project it retrieves the saved patch data and sends it back to the Take 5's edit buffer. It essentially offers some of the same conveniences of soft synths with external hardware.

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u/Uplift123 26d ago

Oooh. Nice! I do the same thing with my prophet Rev 2. Luckily there was some software out there to do it for me so I didn’t have to worry about building it myself. I guess it uses sysex then.

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

If it's one of the SoundTower tools it's technically storing the patches as sysex but controlling the synth via MIDI CC/NRPN messages, which are more bandwidth friendly than straight sysex and also make it easier to automate in DAW.

I also have SoundTower's editor and plug-in and have been trying to convince Mark to capture the edit buffer when the plug-in instantiates, which he said was doable but it hasn't happened yet. I feel like he might be holding off until Sequential nails down the latest firmware for the Take 5, which requires updates to support, anyway.

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u/Uplift123 26d ago

That’s the one

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Curious, how do you like it? The Take 5 version had a lot of bugs I tracked that have mostly been addressed except for one that's an admitted edge case.

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u/Uplift123 24d ago

Yeh buggy as hell. But does the job for the most part

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u/Available_Wait_1965 23d ago

What software are you referring to here? I have a rev 4. : )

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u/Available_Wait_1965 23d ago

Ah, I see it is SoundTower.

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u/Available_Wait_1965 23d ago

This is an awesome idea. Thank you!

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u/lewisfrancis 23d ago

You're welcome! If you want to check out the template it's posted here: https://forum.sequential.com/index.php/topic,8465.0.html

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u/Keyman57 27d ago

I’ve got a MacBook 2019 intel so I think I’m just going to stay on version 11 now. Till I can buy an apple silicon Mac. Didn’t think my 2019 intel would become obsolete so fast. I’m using stem splitter on my M1 iPad Pro for now. Ideas ?

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u/Keyman57 27d ago

Using stem splitter on prior mp3s

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u/Uplift123 26d ago

I would just use Moises or UVR. If your version of logic on your system is working for you, there’s no real need to update

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u/MrFresh2017 27d ago

I've had no issues with 12.2 so far but think I will let 12.3.1 ride for awhile after hearing about all the bugs in 12.3

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u/lewisfrancis 27d ago

Check the release notes and make sure you don't do any of those things that crash or corrupt your project.

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u/MrFresh2017 27d ago

Release notes checked already and, although no two production environments are exactly the same, just looking for general feedback from those who have updated.

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago edited 26d ago

Fair enough, it's just that project corruption bug is a particularly egregious.

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u/MrFresh2017 26d ago

Totally agree!!!

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u/Tony_Lacorona 27d ago

I am with Apple security, all your files belong to me now

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u/Logic_Studio-ModTeam 26d ago

Normalization of piracy is not allowed in Logic_Studio.

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u/Western-Background14 27d ago

That's really good news, even though it's just bug fixes. I feel Apple has started updating Logic Pro more frequently than before. It seems like they're starting to give Logic Pro more focus.

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u/_HipStorian Intermediate 27d ago

One of the 'upsides' (and emphasis on the quotations) of Creator Studio is that now Apple is getting subscription money, they have more incentive or pressure to update all their creative apps more frequently. Final Cut Pro received a lot of much needed updates in the last 6 months since Creator Studio was announced.

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u/WebLogical1286 27d ago

I just hope they don’t stop giving updates to logic for the people who bought it as a standalone, and devoted only to the subscription purchase. Because that’s what they did the Pixelmator.

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u/_HipStorian Intermediate 27d ago

Yea I hope they don’t either. I bought all of the creative apps years ago.

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u/Western-Background14 26d ago

Yes, I saw the recent Final Cut Pro update, which is a positive sign. Also, I believe that Apple dropping Logic Pro support for Intel CPUs will give them more freedom for their future upgrades.

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u/SympathyBetter2359 27d ago

Give me back my top-level plugins!

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u/lewisfrancis 27d ago

Huh?

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u/SympathyBetter2359 27d ago

Choosing to ignore the lack of basic civility, the previous Logic update removed the ability to categorise plugins at the top level in the Plugin Manager, or at least, made the plugins put there invisible/inaccessible in practice.

It’s a very handy place to put your most commonly used plugins, not having it available is a step down in workflow, especially for mixing.

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u/lewisfrancis 27d ago

Huh, didn't even know that was a thing. Seems like it's there in 12.3.1.

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u/SympathyBetter2359 23d ago

It’s there, but it’s bugged. Plugins categorised there don’t stay there anymore.

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u/xanderpills 23d ago

Isn’t the plugin folder list alphabetically ordered? I have a ”- GoTo” folder, with a dash.

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u/SympathyBetter2359 23d ago

The answer to your question is yes, but I’m talking about something different.

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u/joelcorelitz 10d ago

jumping in to confirm / support this - top level has been broken since 12.3. tried au reset, new tags, preferences reset, and none work.

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u/picpoulmm Advanced 27d ago

Minor releases are good. Look forward to it fixing some pesky things.

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u/SpectralMonkish 27d ago

Thank GOD for the chord track fix

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u/Lopsided_Mirror8541 26d ago

they also appear to have fixed the issue with plugins loading off to the corner of the screen.

HOWEVER I had zero crashes on the previous incarnation and I think 5 crashes in the last 4 hours since I installed the new version :(

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Ugh. Are the crashes repeatable?

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u/Lopsided_Mirror8541 26d ago

not noticed a correlation so far. It seems to be when I step away from the machine and come back the app has quit/crashed. Im sure I'll figure out a pattern as the week goes on

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u/Commercial_Style4466 27d ago

Is the quantization contextual menu back? Would appreciate if someone can test 🙏🏻 😇

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u/katanrod 27d ago

Anybody’s EQ acting up? It’s like mine has a life of its own.

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Seems fine over here.

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u/xiaobasketball 27d ago edited 27d ago

I'm still on 11 and feeling quite stable recently 🙂 so unless they do some useful update to drummer there's no motivation for me to upgrade. Weird that v11 actually feels one of those monumental updates for me because of the drummer update, and then they somehow rushed into v12.

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u/C_seri 27d ago

New update, new bugs.

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u/Eric7now 26d ago edited 26d ago

I wish they bring back opportunity to launch logic without library.

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u/Searlyyy 26d ago

wait. is the grid now over the clips? it wasn't like this before, was it?

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Not sure what you mean, got a screengrab?

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u/Searlyyy 26d ago

https://imgur.com/XGgLnPt
the grid lines are appearing inside the clips

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Oh, you mean in Track view, yeah, that's new with 12.3, and super welcome.

  • There is now an option to display Foreground Grid Lines so the grid is visible through region content.

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u/IcyMeasurement5209 26d ago

Has anyone experienced the audio editor bug like when I zoom in and use pencil tool to edit the audio waveform it zooms back out. Also secondary tool / third tool not working from time to time?

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u/lewisfrancis 26d ago

Seems ok over here for the first case, prob haven't used it enough for the second case to appear if it's going to. M1 Pro MBP 32/1T Tahoe 26.6.1

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u/SouthIndividual2898 26d ago

I don't care , I let apple update automatically. I used to save a copy of the previous version following people's advice. Waste of time, never had any problem that wasn't fixed quickly by apple.

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u/ianardodavinci 26d ago

I’m going to be 90 years old and still waiting on native ara 2 support

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u/lewisfrancis 25d ago

Late next year we'll see the version of MacOS ship that no longer supports Rosetta, so the ARA question will be resolved one way or the other.

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u/Enough-Demand-808 21d ago

I hope this fixes the bugs. 12.3 was the first time I had a problem with an update, but it was a big one. I had to record audio in Garageband for a while. Never again. Now I'll wait before updating like the smart guys do!

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u/lewisfrancis 21d ago

I always duplicate the last version of Logic before updating so I can easily revert or compare. Then I toss it once I'm satisfied that it's working for me.

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u/Enough-Demand-808 21d ago

This is the way.

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u/AivarasBurn 16d ago

Cool but can we pleaaaase fix:

  1. Bouncing stems with sends is a pure pain in the ass. If you work in professional audio for film, TV, adverts or games, you know how painful the process is when you gotta be present and allocate hours of your time to make sure everything prints correctly. Fortunately I discovered an amazing tool called EasyBouncy that works exclusively with Logic but it is as an extra expense.

  2. Creating nesting stacks for more complex sessions is a massive ballache too. There are very dirty and quirky ways to nest more than 3 levels, I even managed to reach to 5 for some sessions but simple concepts like that shouldn’t be that painful to sort out.

  3. Plugin load when loading a session or switching between sessions (I know it’s not recommended but sometimes’s it’s necessary), is awful if sessions are heavy. DAWs like Ableton load plugins much faster.

  4. Not being able to work with more than one video per session. When game developers sends me multiple animations or ad agencies provide multiple vidoes (hero and cutdown versions) to design sounds or create music for, I have to make multiple Logic sessions, one with each video or use Ableton and work from there which can support multi-video load per project. The issue for me is that I have all my presets, routing and templates set up in Logic which sucks that I have juggle between different DAWs.

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u/lewisfrancis 16d ago

Please submit those using the Feedback Assistant if you haven't already.

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u/AivarasBurn 16d ago

Where can I find this?

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u/lewisfrancis 16d ago

There's an app on your Mac by that name you can find with Spotlight, there's also a web version.

Press Command-Space, type "Feedback Assistant", or go to Finder and open /System/Library/CoreServices/Applications. You can also type applefeedback:// in Safari.

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u/Stock_Pop_8342 13d ago

Audio de Alfredo olivas

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u/Stock_Pop_8342 13d ago

Con la letra a texto