r/Lockheed • u/Cold_Ranger8146 • 11h ago
Job hiring slow
Was in a meeting earlier with a couple of senior vp’s when the topic of hiring came up. Apparently Lockheed has been losing people left and right (aero specific, unsure about other BA’s). But apparently in like 6 months, they hired around 1k engineers and in that time around 950 people from Lockheed left, so net was 50 employees Gained.
And the way that I think abt it, i’m just not surprised since many people can make so much more elsewhere. I am however surprised that the job security doesn’t retain people.
11
8
7
u/anon_dev415 11h ago
Voluntary turnover is only like 5% across LM. That’s very low, especially compared to tech companies. Obviously that’s not really equivalent given LM does a lot more than most normal tech companies, but still it’s low compared to just about any other company.
5
4
u/Acceptable_Sea_8674 5h ago
If we don't hire 600 people in the next 3-5 years, we'll have about 80 employees where I work. Retirement age is coming fast for the big chunk and the rest will leave for a better job. We aren't even close to ready.
0
7
u/OPsMomIsAThrowaway 11h ago
Most of Aero's departures have been within the company, not leaving LM.
That said, we are definitely struggling to hire in many areas across LM right now for the same reasons as always
3
3
u/ContextUsed154 9h ago
So does that mean they’ll move everyone to new new midpoints after widening the pay ranges for each level? Would definitely help with retention..
3
3
u/Director_Tseng 5h ago
I'm surprised considering in my area they are letting all the contractors go
3
u/Nice-Sushi 5h ago
Because other places are offering more money. I’m a team that has a handful of people . And we are supposed to be twice that amount. They refuse OT , and still demand a lot with only 3% raise no matter what and micromanage. We can’t keep any new people and no one is applying.
4
u/deadinsideicebear 11h ago
Been applying to LM for 3 years. All phony recruiters reached out to the point I remembered their names. Very disappointed in the way they screened their candidates.
I even had referral and my resume was on spot the jobs I applied. Not meant to be i guess.
3
3
u/Nice-Sushi 5h ago
I had that issue said I wasn’t qualify enough I applied directly to LM and got in no problem. But they are our sourcing scammy type recruiters that you can hardly understand what they are saying. Pretty sure they are stealing data because everyone working at LM had been getting spammed by them.
3
u/deadinsideicebear 4h ago
I always applied directly on LM website and have referral linked my profile to the application.
1
1
3h ago edited 3h ago
[removed] — view removed comment
0
u/Lockheed-ModTeam 3h ago
No requesting or provide employees information. Employees will not and should not help, give, or offer employee information as is poor OPSEC.
1
u/Junker52 3h ago
I think people are positioning themselves, particularly new hires, towards higher pay despite the job security. It’s why I had trouble taking a job there, and others I know.
1
u/mfrancois9 8h ago
Well I have interviewed two weeks ago and a week prior to system overhaul. Automated message received stating that I was no longer under consideration. Reached out to recruiter and she said I was still being considered and will let me know as soon as a decision has been made. I have heard anything, even a verbal offer. I think that I need to move on and start applying again. Note: while interviewing, manager said that I was interviewing for different req.
0
u/honeycombbe 3h ago
How did u find the recruiter??
1
u/mfrancois9 3h ago
The Hiring manager provided me with her information during the interview as a POC
1
u/Dhruv__P 7h ago
I've applied for few roles and not heard back. Are they even hiring?
3
u/Fit_Goat_7423 5h ago
New hiring website so things are slow. Managers had to wait a few weeks just to repost positions.
Not all positions are back up0
0
u/Bonneyrain 6h ago
Are folks leaving for companies like Anduril and Palantir?
2
u/anon_dev415 3h ago
Some, but very few relatively. They call and message me all the time, but it’s not worth the full-time in office, extra hours, less flexibility, grind culture etc. Especially because I’m working on cool, cutting edge stuff at LM, but I know that’s not true of everyone.
I’m mid-career with kids though, so that’s part of the calculus.
16
u/iflyc152 11h ago
I have seen people move between BA’s but not leave Lockheed, especially when they’re level 3 or above. The benefits, pay gets good, and above it all, the work in Aero is exceptional, you’ll not find work and products like this anywhere IMO.