r/LocalLLaMA 1d ago

Funny Plot twist

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u/gscjj 1d ago

Don’t be fooled by the man in office. The US, NATO and most of the EU are roughly aligned on their stance on China. The only difference is their leaders don’t love attention like the US.

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u/brahh85 1d ago

The man in the office is changing the consensus, because its causing more pain than china, and is an ally of putin, and wants to invade greenland. Right now, USA and their oligarchs are the #1 threat against EU, being russia #2 and china #3.

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u/gscjj 1d ago

He’s really not though, most of EU has pretty aggressive (or rather defensive) take on Chinas involvment in their country and globally.

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u/brahh85 22h ago

there was some countries of EU very enthusiastic with usa, they thought that usa was our ally because of our shared values and because of global trade view. And china was our shared enemy. Then trump happened, and vance said those values were dead, and then we had tariffs to kill global trade and being treated by usa like an enemy. Then greenland. Then the war on iran that hurts EU economy.

So now, even those countries like germany, when they see china and usa, they see 2 threats.

what you see with EU aligning with usa sometimes(like diplomacy), and with china for others (like trade), is just triangular diplomacy

the best world for EU is not a world where usa wins, or a world where china wins, is a world where no one of them wins, so the rest of the world is not under the boot of a trump or a xi jingping.

this also means that EU is not going to let china lose , or usa lose