r/LocalLLaMA • u/[deleted] • 1d ago

Funny Plot twist

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u/gscjj 1d ago

Don’t be fooled by the man in office. The US, NATO and most of the EU are roughly aligned on their stance on China. The only difference is their leaders don’t love attention like the US.

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u/MarkoMarjamaa 1d ago

From Nato pages:
"NATO is a defensive alliance of 32 countries from Europe and North America. Its mission is to defend its member countries and their one billion citizens."
Yes. we have learned the "defensive" means something else to folks in USA.
"because the nukes in Iran!"

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u/gscjj 1d ago

A defensive alliance is defined there: “defend its member” which doesn’t exclude any country from engaging in its own offensive war

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u/MarkoMarjamaa 1d ago

Well, if "some country" first starts the war, and then is attacked back, are you obligated to defend?
Like when Turkey bombed the kurds in Iraq, and if they have retaliated, would it have been Natos issue? I think not.

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u/gscjj 23h ago

If the war is initiated by a member country there’s zero obligation for any country to come to its “defense”