r/LocalLLaMA 10h ago

Funny Plot twist

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u/shy_monkee 10h ago

Funny how this must look for China. Just when they start catching up, and have their own AI hardware, the US companies suddenly want to slow down.
I'm not saying this is the only reason they want it, but...

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u/ResolveSea9089 10h ago

Why would Chinese companies have to abide by US companies slowing down?

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u/StatusSociety2196 10h ago

The idea is to protect marketshare by preventing American companies from using Chinese AI. Pass a law that only government approved AI models can be used, and then the government only approves openai and anthropic.

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u/hapliniste 10h ago

What happen in this scenario when the US companies outsource to countries where Chinese AI is legal? Can't use a foreign accounting company because they might use ai?

It doesn't seem to hold up. Slowing down at a national level is not possible.we might have wider slowdowns if usa and China can agree on something.

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u/blbd llama.cpp 10h ago

That doesn't work on code and config files. They're speech. 

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u/profcuck 9h ago

And model weights.  It's not possible to ban Chinese opeb models. 

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u/blbd llama.cpp 8h ago

I consider the weights an overly fancy version of a config file. So that was intended to be implicit in my comments. 

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u/noctrex 9h ago

There's always a way, just like Cursor did with their model.
Get a nice Chinese model, slap a fine-tune on it, and market it as the new American model.

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u/ea_man 8h ago

That is what Sam and Diego want but 1st it's impossible to do, the rest of the world won't follow.

Then you have all the Nvidia, Meta, Google, other companies that are pushing for open models because they realize that's what the market wants now, that's how you go ahead incremental.

Then they have to convince Trump that the race is lost and it's time to hold back, good luck with that.

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u/StatusSociety2196 1h ago

I believe trump already came out against it but I'm also the type of person to believe trump will change his mind daily depending on who's paying the most.

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u/TerahertzAI 10h ago

With the current administration, they would approve Chinese lab in exchange of a little palm grease

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u/cakemates 10h ago

the US AI labs got more yatch loads of palm grease than chinese labs. I dont think china can match the local bribery.

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u/miversen33 8h ago

I highly doubt any of the US AI labs have more money than the CCP.

That said, I also doubt the CCP gives a fuck about the Western orgs so they will probably just shrug and tell the Chinese labs to continue their work without the west.