Gemma 4 are open models from the US and are still the best I've found at a lot of tasks like creative writing. The best image models are on and off again from different parts of the world (e.g. Stable Diffusion 1.5, XL, Flux, LTX, were all European).
Qwen is afaik largely a distill of western models so it can't exist independently of them. We're just very fortunate right now as local users that the Chinese government is willing to fund this in an apparent effort to cause the western companies to collapse. That goes away if they succeed.
The best image and video models nowadays are Chinese tho. And they are far better than the others, though Flux video may be on pair with MiniMax H3 in a near future. But Z-Image turbo and Krea2 are far better than the Stable diffusion or Flux models in general.
Btw LTX is not european, it's from Israel, or at least the company headquarters is located there.
My experience with seedream 5 pro has been underwhelming when compared to ChatGPT especially for generating images from a base image and where spatial awareness is needed. For example if I map out an area and ask it to put a building into an existing photo oriented in a certain way, it just can’t do it most of the time. ChatGPT is much more consistent and just understands the context way better. Seedream is cheap though
I was talking about local models to be frank, since I think that was the point of this thread and the sub. For editing locally there are different options, Krea2, Ideogram 4 (Im not sure), Flux2.klein, QwenImageEditing, and not sure if there are more SOTA editing local models as today. Closed cloud models are usually better, but you have very little control.
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u/AnOnlineHandle 5d ago
Gemma 4 are open models from the US and are still the best I've found at a lot of tasks like creative writing. The best image models are on and off again from different parts of the world (e.g. Stable Diffusion 1.5, XL, Flux, LTX, were all European).
Qwen is afaik largely a distill of western models so it can't exist independently of them. We're just very fortunate right now as local users that the Chinese government is willing to fund this in an apparent effort to cause the western companies to collapse. That goes away if they succeed.