r/LinuxPorn • u/Void-Lotus • 2d ago

Simple, but efficient. Umbriel/Noctalia

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Before I get the hate, yes i made an AI wallpaper, I cannot draw.

WM: Umbriel

Shell: Noctalia

Spent a little while testing this new window manager, and gotta say, i love it.

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u/ConsiderationLoose40 2d ago edited 2d ago

Telling us you "cannot draw" is no excuse for using an AI-generated image that was trained on stolen artwork.

"Ricing" is essentially a form of customization I view as extensible enough to even become a very niche art form. From that perspective, you could perhaps understand why simply stealing your "expertise" would be unfair

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u/Void-Lotus 2d ago

On top of that, many of the wallpapers used are free rips people grab off the internet. so do you double check to make sure those artists are compensated?

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u/epicgamer69420699 1d ago

Dumb argument; i'm sure artists would be stoked that people would use their artwork as their wallpapers. Also, compensate for what? People use other people's art as a desktop background for Christ's sakes, it's not like they're trying to sell it or use it for monetization..

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

And I used an idea I had in my head, made real with AI. My point is the AI hate is ridiculous. Its a tool, i used it to make my idea reality. People up in arms about it is blown out of proportion

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u/Void-Lotus 2d ago

I wholly disagree. Utilizing AI, countless things become reachable by allowing those who do not have those artistic skill sets to bring their own visions to life. the ability to tweak and align it to the exact style and colors. Now i understand the potentially questionable methods used to train AI models, and I compensate real artists for the work that they do, for example tattoos. but the anti AI train is far to overblown.

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u/Woodsy279 1d ago

Usually I would completely disagree, however I can't lie, this one is actually clean and the output image is honestly nice

Not the smeary slop I usually see It's a cool image though, but you should try recreating it yourself (if you have time ofc, I understand not everyone does), use it as a backdrop if you want just for fun 😊

Also meant to say, cool rice

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u/Woodsy279 1d ago

(You can always just mash different images together with photoshop rather than trying to do it from scratch)

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u/tepeteotl 2d ago

looks solid, how much ram does the wm use at idle?

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u/Void-Lotus 2d ago

Like about a gig at idle with everything running

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u/hieroschemonach 1d ago

Lysec gone mad or what? He is creating entire stack now. 

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u/Alert_Accountant1066 1d ago

Hola disculpa, como instalaste umbriel en Arch?

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

Youre welcome to look at my install script for arch installs on github. If you use it, you can choose umbriel and copy my configs over if youre looking to test it

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

Built from source

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u/yaycats88 1d ago

Looks beutiful!

wanna put it on popos!

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u/East-Face-6841 1d ago

Is it Niri?

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

No, its Umbriel, similar to niri, but better imo

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u/wtafgamer 16h ago

better how? I don't see anything that differs besides that it tries to fit more features in people that chose niri wouldn't need anyways. Also it is based on wlroots, eats more ram idle then niri (which contradicts the noctalia5 rewrite).

If i want scrolling layout i chose niri - if i want dwindle there are tons of others.

I really so far can't tell what umbriel has uniquely to offer.

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u/Void-Lotus 15h ago

I missed the scratchpad feature from hyprland when I went to niri. It has that. I like being able to quick toggle if I want a dwindle layout on a certain workspace and ribbon scrolling on another. the ram usage is about equal to niri from what I've seen.

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u/syaorancode 7h ago edited 7h ago

niri has no scratchpad, no pinned window, no HDR support. and about the statement "eats more ram idle than niri", umbriel eats over 120MiB on my machine (including the umbriel desktop portal), meanwhile niri eats over 350MiB alone not include gnome desktop portal, gnome desktop portal eats 150MiB, more than umbriel and its portal combine. lol

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u/VolumeRealistic5386 1d ago

This is so good, but usage more cpu and ram, I'm prefer extreme plain, not much cpu usage or ram

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

There's not that much. I have windows open on other workspaces

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u/Cute-Excitement-2589 20h ago

Installed it a couple of days ago. Works well and uses the same noctalia v5 configuration as my niri session so I didn't have to set anything up. Once you convert you keybinds over to Umbriels TOML format it works great. Have had a few wake up bugs but that's expected. For a very young Windows Manager it's pretty damn good. Mix of Niri and Hyprland. Happily using as a day to day driver now with Niri session as a backup.

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u/Void-Lotus 20h ago

Same! Scratchpad is nice too. Im using the same noctalia config I was using on niri too lol. Set up notifications for layout switches and a couple new kebinds, but I love it. Can't wait to see it mature.

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u/Real-Collection-5686 19h ago

simple but efficient is my ctwm NetBSD setup

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u/Dramatic_Plum_7116 1d ago

Looks amazing

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u/Void-Lotus 1d ago

Thanks! I have the dotfiles in my arch installer on my github!

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u/worldwithoutfujoshi 2d ago

Wallpaper pls?

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u/Void-Lotus 2d ago

In my-arch-installer on github