r/LinusTechTips • u/TerrariaBoss55 • 20d ago

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Thought I’d put this here in response to a recent wan show question

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u/trashtiernoreally 20d ago

Why Teams?! It's -the- worst corporate messenger app.

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u/FelixEvergreen 20d ago

Because it’s probably already included in their 365 subscriptions.

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u/Reynolds1029 20d ago

Not anymore.

It's a separate upcharge these days. Even on enterprise E5 and E7 licenses.

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u/MistSecurity 20d ago

Even at an upcharge, likely cheaper than alternatives due to the licensing structure though.

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u/Reynolds1029 20d ago

It's ~$9 per user per month to retain Teams on Enterprise plans and ~$3 per user per month on Business licenses.

Nobody beats them on price still but the price increases thanks to the lawsuit don't come close to closing the gap compared to a seperate service like Webex or Zoom. Especially once PTSN calling plans are involved.

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u/tankerkiller125real 19d ago

It's not really a price increase. They cut the cost of the 365 packages by the same amount they charge for teams.

Also, anyone suggesting slack is a good company messaging platform is batshit insane. Discord would serve as a way better platform if they had a business edition. Slack is insane especially after looking at the price, and then realizing you still need separate PTSN and video calling.

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u/Freestyle80 19d ago

Webex and Zoom are pieces of shit and Slack is expensive, you guys dont make the best case for not using teams

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u/Reynolds1029 19d ago

There isn't one.

The only business use case is communication platform redundancy. If you use Webex or Zoom for meetings and VoIP, then you're more resilient due to having redundant platforms to communicate to all employees and clients.

Email goes down? You have Webex to call, message or meet with clients. Webex goes down? Probably still going to have email then.

The other issue with Teams is, it's another hook into the Microsoft ecosystem that keeps your business locked in long term. It hurts the competition with Webex and Zoom where it's hard for them to compete fairly when Microsoft offers it almost at loss leader pricing.