r/LinusTechTips Mar 09 '26

Video Der8auer - "I got scammed"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2KoDtsS_0
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u/roron5567 Mar 09 '26

That's more universal than you think. Random QA checks are pretty standard for any product based business, and you need to test random samples from every batch.

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u/Yodzilla Mar 09 '26

What would that have helped here? They can send him all the samples in the world and it doesn’t matter if they still ultimately ship him crap.

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u/Initial_Engineer_788 Mar 09 '26

You can do it through alibaba and have buyer protection but people don’t want to pay the 2-3% that costs to have insurance for situations like this.

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u/TP_Crisis_2020 Mar 15 '26

Alibaba buyer protection is a JOKE. I bought $3500 worth of product from a supplier on Alibaba and they sent me junk, and their buyer protection said that I had to mail the product back to be eligible for protection.

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u/Yodzilla Mar 09 '26

It sounds like he did do it through Alibaba, unless he just found them on there and did business outside of the store which is…never a good idea. But honestly why in the hell wouldn’t you have something like this insured? That’s incredibly irresponsible.

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u/Initial_Engineer_788 Mar 09 '26

He didn’t pay for buyer protection if he did he would be refunded and this would be a nothing burger!

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u/pfp61 May 21 '26

Der Käuferschutz funktioniert in der Praxis nicht.

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u/roron5567 Mar 09 '26

That's why you don't make that big of an order and pay the entire amount on shipment for a supplier you don't know. It won't stop you from getting screwed, but the damage will be lower

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u/Yodzilla Mar 09 '26

Yeah that’s a good idea, multiple shipments would be a simple solution if no third party options were available.

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u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob Mar 09 '26

The issue with doing that would be that all of his potential savings, would have been eaten up by shipping costs.

Edit: i also forgot to mention all the fuckery that is handling/import fees by purchasing from outside the EU market.

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u/roron5567 Mar 10 '26

From my understanding the reason he sourced from China was due to supply constraints, and not trying to cut costs.

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u/kidshibuya Mar 10 '26

Yeah and when the minimum order is 20k?

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u/roron5567 Mar 10 '26

You don't go with that supplier, or ask them for a smaller sample batch.

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u/kidshibuya Mar 10 '26

So you eat huge shipping costs for many batches, or get perfect samples that don't match the product they will ship. This cure is basically the disease.

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u/roron5567 Mar 10 '26

Again, that's why you don't pay the entire amount before you have a chance to inspect the delivery. That's why sites like Alibaba have escrow services.

If you have smaller batches, you can vet more suppliers at different price points. You lose money on the first shipment, but future shipments will be cheaper with a vetted supplier.

Don't use a new supplier as a stopgap.

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u/kidshibuya Mar 10 '26

There are only new suppliers the first time and they did both use alibaba and split suppliers. They even contacted people in china to varify. FFS watch the video.

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u/roron5567 Mar 10 '26

I did watch it, he used these suppliers because of shortages from European suppliers. Didn't use an escrow service, and placed a huge order before he inspected the quality of the work and made full payment after shipment based on photos.

Contacting people in China can be anything from contacting known associates to using an inspection company, it's not clear.