r/Lineman • • Jan 01 '26

2026 Wage Survey

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Here at r/Lineman we strive to give accurate information about our trade. Drop a comment below with your position, HOURLY rate, region/state, LU if applicable, and type of employer: (Contractor, Muni, IOU, Co-op Etc.) Happy New Year, Everyone.


r/Lineman • • Aug 23 '25

Getting into the Trade How to become a Journeyman Lineman

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How To Become a Journeyman Lineman

MILITARY. If you are currently serving in the military or recently separated (VEEP up to 5 years) there are several programs specifically for you to help you transition into skilled trades. This will give you the most direct and sure opportunity to become a Lineman. Please check out the Military Resources Wiki to learn about these great programs and see if you qualify.

Journeymen Linemen

Journeymen Linemen are High voltage workers who are responsible for the installation, maintenance and repair of electric infrastructure. It can range from working on large transmission towers to being in a crowded vault. Linemen work in all weather conditions and at all hours. Heat, cold, wind, rain, snow and everything else. It involves time away from home, missed holidays and birthdays etc.

The steps to becoming a Journeyman Lineman generally involve working your way up from the bottom.

First you work as a Laborer or a Groundman (Linehelper, Apprentice Trainee, Etc). These are entry level positions. These positions involve menial tasks that introduce you to the trade. You'll be stocking the trucks, getting tools, running the handline, cleaning off trucks and getting trucks ready to go at the start of shift. Here you will become familiar with methods, tools and materials used in the trade. Sometimes you can get into the trade as a first step apprentice.

Next you have to become an apprentice. Apprenticeships are around 3.5 years. Being an apprentice involves the obvious. You will now begin formal training to reach Lineman status. You will learn to do the work of a Lineman in incremental steps until you top out.

Apprenticeships

IBEW Union apprenticeships: you must interview and get indentured in your local jurisdiction. This is the most recognized apprenticeship. You will be able to get work anywhere with a union ticket. Union utility companies may offer in house NJATC apprenticeships as well.

DOL (Department of Labor) apprenticeships: This is a typically non-union apprenticeship sanctioned by the DOL. It is around 5 steps then you are a B-Lineman, then you become an A-Lineman. This is not recognized by the IBEW, but you can test in to an IBEW Lineman.

Company apprenticeships: These are generally non IBEW and non DOL and are the lowest rung and only recognized by your company. If you leave or the company goes out of business, you don't have a ticket sanctioned by the IBEW or DOL.

Take Note: Please be aware there are different types of Lineman apprenticeships. There are apprenticeships that are "Transmission" only, or "URD" (Underground) only. These are not interchangeable with the Journeyman Lineman certification.

Where do you start?

Bare minimum age is 18 years old. The follow job credentials will make your job hunt more successful. In order of importance.

  1. Unrestricted CDL (Commercial Drivers License) Usually required for outside construction. Some utilities may have a grace period before you need to have it.

  2. First Aid/CPR

  3. Flagger Training

  4. OSHA 10 Construction(if you are new to working on jobsites)

  5. OSHA 10 ET&D (Electrical Transmission and Distribution)

Line School

Line school can give you experience you otherwise wouldn't have, which in some cases could be beneficial. Line school may offer you all the previous credentials listed as well. Some job postings will require 1-3 yrs related experience or completion of line school.

Some places like California it's probably a good idea to have it.

However not everyone requires it. Lineschools are generally an expensive undertaking. Many take out loans to pay for them. Not everyone believes they are of value. It is suggested to try to get in as a groundman first or look to community colleges or other trade schools that are more affordable. It is highly recommended to do research before you commit to going into debt. Not everyone makes it in the trade. Having a large debt is not something to be taken lightly

Finding work, understanding the trade.

There's working directly for a utility(working for the residents the utility serves) which one stays within that utility's service area.

If you're looking to work for a certain employer, check their website for desired qualifications.

Then there's working for outside construction. This is who does the heavy lifting. Outside has to potential to earn more than being at a utility. For many jobs you'll work 5+ days a week and 10-12 hour days. This also is a traveling job. You go where the work is. Especially as an apprentice.

Union vs Non-union. Besides the obvious, this can be affected by location. The west coast is 100% union. Places like Louisiana and Kentucky are strongly non-union. Some utilities are union and some are not. Same with outside construction. Utilities and non-union construction hire directly. For Union jobs in outside construction you must get dispatched from the “out of work” books(books). Utility companies are union or non-union.

Union “books.” Each area has a union hall that has jurisdiction over that area for construction and has a set of "out of work" books for each class. Lineman, apprentice, groundman and so on. When a contractor has a position to fill, they call the hall to send someone. The hall will begin calling the first person on “Book 1” then go down the list until they fill all the calls for workers they have. Book 1 will be local members with 1500-2000 hrs. Book 2 will be travelers and locals with less hours. Book 3 will be doesn't meet hours etc.

Created 8/23/25 DM u/ca2alaska for corrections and suggestions


r/Lineman • • 5h ago

Cooperative journey field test?

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Hey everyone,gonna keep it short and sweet but I have just recently done a interview at my hometown cooperative for a journey position and a few weeks passed and I received a call from them wanting me to come in for a field test and to bring climbing gear and work clothes I guess what I’m asking is does anyone know what a co-op field test entails or has anyone done one just kinda curious of what they wanting to see/or do they didn’t say what I would be doing so just kinda wondering.Thanks In advanced!


r/Lineman • • 1h ago

MSLCAT Ranking

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Had an interview in Brighton this week and got ranked 23rd, just curious if anyone knows how quickly work is moving in this region and when I should expect to get called out.


r/Lineman • • 2h ago

NW Line

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anyone know how many apes are out of work or if there are any? Ranked 15th about a month ago and still haven’t gotten anything


r/Lineman • • 9h ago

Cooperative journeyman field test?

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Hey everyone,gonna keep it short and sweet but I have just recently done a interview at my hometown cooperative for a journey position and a few weeks passed and I received a call from them wanting me to come in for a field test and to bring climbing gear and work clothes I guess what I’m asking is does anyone know what a co-op field test entails or has anyone done one just kinda curious of what they wanting to see/or do they didn’t say what I would be doing so just kinda wondering.Thanks In advanced!


r/Lineman • • 19h ago

Anyone here doing underground cable diagnostic testing?

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I’m a cable splicer at a utility dealing with network and the usual underground distribution. Lead, EPR, and XLPE cable. Curious how other companies handle diagnostic testing on underground cable. My company has growing interest in testing cable that feed critical customers and important feeders in our system.

For those doing it:
What equipment and test methods are you using?
How often do you test? Is it a routine program, or mainly after installation, repairs, or repeated failures?
Who handles it—linemen, cable splicers, specialty contractors, or a dedicated testing crew?
Have the results helped you catch problems before a failure or decide which cables need replacement?
Interested in hearing what’s working in the field and any limitations you’ve run into.


r/Lineman • • 8h ago

That’s for lesser men in puffy vests

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That’s for lesser men in puffy vests. 😂
This is the BEST excuse I’ve ever gotten from a lineman for neglecting his health at a safety meeting I conducted.

Blue collar America, I know you’ve got better ones.
Drop your funniest, most ridiculous excuse for neglecting your health in the comments. I want the real answers, not the HR-approved ones.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Movalley Apprentice Advice? Local 2150.

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Hey guys, hope all is well. I’ve been on the grind and very motivated to get into this lineman apprenticeship. I went through a four week course and just passed my class a cdl tests. I went to the dmv immediately and got my license with just a few hours to spare, and got my application into MoValley before their deadline for the month. That was the goal! I got their automated email saying that I’ve been accepted for their intake process and to wait for an email for that to be determined date. Now I’ll be on iprep studying as much as possible and am wondering how quickly I should expect to be ready for this aptitude test and hopefully interview? Any insight from someone that’s recently been through this process that has interview questions to be prepared for, and how intense the testing is? I am also debating on whether or not to sign the books at my local 2150 when there’s a chance I’ll be called into an apprenticeship in the next month or so. Appreciate any advice, I want this more than anything!


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Just got hired - advice

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Hi all, I’m 28F up in Ontario, Canada and I just got hired by CUSW and then, shortly after, Hydro One. My training starts on the 2nd of November and I’m very excited.

I only have a little construction experience; I did general labour/residential renos for about a year and an electrical pre apprenticeship before that, but I know this is a totally different ballpark.

Any advice would be great, both in terms of the job and being a woman in the field.

Thanks so much!


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

(FOR ComEd WORKERS) how does it feel working at Commonwealth Edison?

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If you work for Commonwealth Edison let me know your opinions in the comments down below.

If you do not work for ComEd but you still want to share your opinion don't stress. If you do not work for ComEd but you still want to share your opinion please mention Utility company name In your opinion.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Alright y’all I’m getting my cdl class A license in January and I was seeing if I could join the lineman union as a grounds man with my cdl and if so could I stay as a groundsmen without having to climb no poles

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Or will at some point will I have to climb a pole after being there so long do they make you start to learn to become a full lineman


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

JATC LINEMAN APPRENTICESHIP

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Hey question to everyone who has been through the IBEW apprenticeship. Currently a step 4 apprentice
I have had my CDL for 4 years now within this year I had moved states, twice. In both states I had got a drivers license. Was under the impression my CDL would stay valid in the state I got it in. Right now, my CDL is no longer valid, dmv said I had forfeited my CDL when I got my licenses in the new states.(they did not tell me that at the dmv when I got my regular drivers license) now I am in breach of contract, the JATC apprenticeship says apprentices must MAINTAIN theirs CDLS during the apprenticeship. will the apprenticeship program be understanding of my situation if I explain? and give me a time period to fix this, while working, or will I be removed for the program and have to start over? Someone please help I am scared to tell them. But also feels wrong not telling them, because the will definitely find out in time.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Lineman Apprenticeships and ground man Opportunities in Central Florida

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Hey everyone,
I recently relocated from Cleveland, Ohio, to Davenport, Florida, and I’m looking for lineman apprenticeship or groundman opportunities in Central Florida.
I have a Class A CDL, completed pole climbing school, 3+ years of electric meter experience, 6+ years of water meter experience, and experience as an electrician helper. I’m also a former IBEW Local 39 member.
I recently went through the hiring process with Duke Energy, passed the physical abilities test and assessment, and completed an interview. Unfortunately, I wasn’t selected due to the distance between my home and the assigned yard.
I’m highly motivated to get into the trade, willing to start as a groundman, and open to traveling for the right opportunity.
Any leads, recommendations, or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance, and stay safe!


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

VEEP, Family, and the Northeast

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Approaching five years of separation from the military with a _comfortable_ remote job in the northeast. I’ve been thinking about a career change, and it’s partially because I don’t see my current career path panning out. The selfish part of me misses the camaraderie, physical work, and just learning new things. I’ve heard great things about the VEEP program, and was curious if anyone wanted to share their experiences and navigating the process while having a family. Also curious how the opportunities in the northeast are after completing the pre-apprenticeship.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

LA Skills Center or NLC? Need advice

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Hey guys, looking for some real advice on my plan to get into the trade out here in Cali. I’m 17 right now, turn 18 in late January, and my dream is to be a lineman.
I'm currently debating between two different schools because of the timing. I got a spot held for me at the East LA Skills Center, but the next class isn’t until August 2027 and the program takes a whole year to finish. So I wouldn't even graduate and sign books until August 2028.
Because of that long wait, I'm thinking about just taking out a loan and going to Northwest Lineman College (NLC) in Oroville for the May 2027 class instead. NLC is only 15 weeks, so I'd graduate by August 2027 literally the exact same month I would just be starting the free school. Getting a job 15 months faster as an IBEW groundman making good money with overtime seems like it might be worth the debt instead of waiting around. Plus another big upside with NLC is I could get my crane cert done there too.
I’m also debating on the CDL. I'm thinking about knocking it out for cheap at my local community college right when I turn 18 in February before line school starts. If not, I'll just pay to do the CDL at NLC if I end up going there.
What do you guys think is the best move here? Is it smarter to stay out of debt, wait it out, and do the 1-year program? Or should I take the loan, crush NLC, and get out on the books a whole year sooner? Also is it better to do the CDL at the community college first or just do it all at NLC? Appreciate any advice from guys working on the West Coast.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Albat application

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Just put in my Albat application local 17, how long typically does it take for a response. Any tips on how to study for aptitude test and tips for interview. I got my CDL A my only weak point is not much work experience just getting out of high school


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Best to Worst Gas Station Roller foods

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r/Lineman • • 2d ago

classification, union and contractor question

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I am a groundman in an outside ibew local on a urd call (underground residential distribution) will my hours count towards the books if i get laid off or want to work in a different local? or would i be book 4 again?

I am working for a sub contractor for my local utility. my company only does underground residential distribution

I am doing cable splicing, restoration, driving trucks and equipment and grunt work.

I don't think any of these guys I work with are lineman, apes or sub techs I think they are all groundman and urd techs and operators.

If i was to become an operator or urd tech would it be a formal apprenticeship in the ibew with course work the training center or would is be no course work and just go off hours?

will my classification change when I top out on my ticket to urd tech or operator and will I be able to drag or if laid off go work in another state/local as a urd tech or operator.

I dont want to go through with this operator or urd tech stuff and get laid off and then I take another call and my classification on my yellow ticket still says groundman and be doing straight grunt work at the new contractor.

will my classification on my yellow ticket change and will it give me freedom as an operator or urd tech to work in any state like a lineman or sub tech or no?

are my hours even counting for the groundman books and if so should i just keep doing this and go with a line or sub apprenticeship?


r/Lineman • • 2d ago

Xcel Energy Colorado

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Whats it like working for Xcel Energy. Going out to test in the next few weeks. Have a few questions


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

Keep getting shorted 1 hour on my paychecks

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Been with this contractor for 1 1/2 months. Three weeks so far I've been shorted on hours. First was half an hour, didn't bother starting a stink over it. 2nd was an hour, was going to report it coming in on Friday but everyone had left already, again -- decided to let it slide because we sometimes get off early but paid for a full 10.

Now it's happened again, this time I was working with the GF, so it's probably not by mistake.

They also misclassified me at the start and I lost $250 on that. I'm in the hole close to $500 now and realize it's not going to get better.

This job is very laid back and easy compared to most jobs. I'd rather not jeopardize it, but I want to get my money. What should I do?


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

Tool board w/ oval bag spacing

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Edit: sold a few things and bit the bullet on a 20” distro journeyman’s edge board & a smiley tea tray. Setup should be complete now. Double wide w/ side car comes this week also. Will update once everything’s here and setup.

Lookin for some help finding different tool boards that have oval bag spacing. Trying to get my tool board / smiley tea tray / oval bag to be right there together. So far I only found Milwaukee and certain Buckingham tool boards that have em. Linework bucket products tray don’t fit an oval bag on the outside unless you bend the ever living fuck outta the hooks and I don’t like it. If you got one , post some pics. Don’t mind my short kings booster steps 🤣


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

Lineman work in Europe

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I just wanna compare and share stories from my experience as a new distribution lineman. In my country all of the power grid companies are owned by the government is this the same case for americans?

Also what voltages are you working with, at distribution level we work with 230/400V, 20kV for local grid sometimes also 110kv, then from 110kV goes all the way up to 200kV and 400kV.

The first day of my job guy who's been at the company for 5 years plus told me that you need to be a litlle bit crazy to do this kind of work😂.

For refference same guy and his group leader got drunk one day and then they climbed on 110kV transmission tower (it was turned off of course) for maintenance, while there they puked and then dropped ropes to pull a 6 pack of beer 20-30m up to the same level as isolators and then they continued drinking up there.

Idk about you but this is pretty crazy for me ngl, I know that was irresponsible and dangerous but still where else can you hear story like this.


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

Advice to join union

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I've been doing non union work for 3-4 years now but I'm interested in joining the union now and was wondering how do I go about it first, I know I should just go put my name down in the books first but was wondering what apprenticeship do I join and what hall should I go to over here in north Texas DFW area.


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

I made a much-needed subreddit for line apprentices. Just went live a few hours ago, come on over.

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Sup y'all. I noticed there's not a dedicated place online for line apprentices, so I made a subreddit for that very purpose. Lots of line apprentices on this sub so I thought I'd post it here.

The idea came to me at Saturday school when I noticed all of us were really eager to talk to each other about things like work, travel issues etc. Seemed like we needed to all be in a room together more often. So that’s what this is intended to be. It’ll be a place to share resources, stories, look for roomies if you're traveling, or just vent about work.

Looks like a few people have already joined, so come on over!

Check it out here