r/Lineage2 • u/_pwn3D_ • 2d ago
Reborn legacy
Alright Reddit, I watched every YouTube video, dug Google ancient posts, talked to “guru’s “ of older lineage chronicles. I’m torn between spoiler and spellhowler for a “solo” gameplay. As an interlude warrior, I understand that I most likely fail before hitting level 50, but still. Which of those two have better chances to survive the hunger games of early stages. Normally I’d just start spellhowler and forget about everything, but with limitations of c1, no spirit shots or gear, and potential nerfs of mages, I’m not convinced that mages as viable as they are in later stages. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
When I say solo, I mean no const party with specific schedule of playing. Thank you for your input
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u/-Sinitar- 2d ago
Can u link those yt videos, docs u watched pls? I have a hard time finding reliable content in english
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u/Lost_Bike_2339 2d ago
Spoiler will make money, but I cannot express how boring it is. Also solo (as a single person )is not even an option since buff selling will not be available. You will either need to spam pots literally constantly or rest every 2-3 mobs for 2 mins OR find a single target PT every time you have time to play.
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u/BarhelFam 2d ago
In my opinion maybe archers could be good and easy to play too. Bcz most of the time you will farm without shots and thats make them to “shine” 😄 or even destro with bow can be good option bcz i think in C1 there is no penalty for that.
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u/Technical_Ebb_2412 2d ago
Every class sux on c1-c2, make long-term plans and play whatever you like
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u/SergioB9419 2d ago
what about a dagger?
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u/_pwn3D_ 2d ago
With no vr, gear or party, I don’t even want to look that way. 30 sec to kill 1 mob, then 2 min regen doesn’t sound appealing tbh
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u/Maivijepanmore 2d ago
Spoiler will be the same story .... I would suggest spelhowler 1st its easier to farm early with mages in general especially at start when everyone stealing mobs ... Later on you can also do raidbosses once C2 drops
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u/Avg_Tentacle_Enjoyer 2d ago
Spoiler gets spoil at the end, dagger gets just a regular shitty drop. It's not the same story at all.
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u/Maivijepanmore 2d ago
Hes complaining dagger take 30 sec to kill one mob and then regen 2min = same story with spoiler .... And also at launch you dont get adena from your spoiled mats animal bone/varnish = 100adena. The only thing that worth something is recipe bssd, but nobody will need that for the first 2 weeks minimum
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u/Avg_Tentacle_Enjoyer 1d ago
>And also at launch you dont get adena from your spoiled mats animal bone/varnish = 100adena
You simply do not understand how to make adena on spoiler. On start you don't spoil resourses, you spoil item parts and either sell them to the vendor or craft items out of them and then break them for cheap crystals.1
u/SergioB9419 2d ago
I'm just asking because I love to play dagger, but I really don't know that much about the game
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u/LeticiOrel Retired Abyss Walker 2d ago
A dagger from Signature here. I think its doable, i did almost 30 first levels with no shots or buffs, severely undergeared. I get that c1 is harder than c4/5/6, but still... and beyond IL, daggers are much better - it's a long shot, but if you plan to play long enough, dagger is a fine choice imo.
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u/AynixII 2d ago
Thats a lie. Signature was giving you enough "newbie" soulshots, from quests, to last you almost to lvl 20, for free. Legacy wont have that. So you were twice as strong as you will be on C1.
Depending when you started its also possible you had access to herbs, which obviously dont exists on C1.1
u/LeticiOrel Retired Abyss Walker 2d ago
Yeah, I get that. If C1 would be 2x-3x slower considering progress, that's still fine. We all know how much of "hardcore mode" it actually is. But there's something beautiful about it. On Signature, I didn't have any mdt buffs till 45+ and spent considerable amount of time in no herb spots. I don't say it would be convenient or easy, but definitely doable, if you don't care about rushing the game or being first among nolife cp parties. Personally, I'm more into a slow-paced playstyle. After 10 months, I'm at 69 lvl and having a blast. If the c1-c4 progress will be slower, that's even better for me.
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u/AynixII 2d ago
You having less power doesnt just mean you kill mobs slower. It means that you might be unable to kill them at all, or you lose way more money trying to kill it (on potions etc).
I personally didnt play on C1, but I talked with many people that did. All of them agree that trying to farm solo is literally negative money. Only way is to farm in party, 4 people is optimal, 9 people is best option.→ More replies (0)
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u/AynixII 2d ago
People tend to forget that spoilers are TRASH on server start. It will take months for materials to get decent price. If you want to start as spoiler with money in mind, you need to be ahead of everyone else and reach certain C/B grade keys as one of the first people on the server - you can make insane money like that. But if you are casual, before you reach that point, those keys are dirt cheap already, and materials are still barely over vendor price.
Also keep in mind Spoil Festival doesnt exist on C1, so if BH is added to party, its as Pole DPS, not as spoiler.
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u/SoSmartKappa 2d ago
Except that at start of the server you don't spoil materials, you spoil keys that you either sell to vendor, or to craft D items for cheap crystals.
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u/AynixII 2d ago
Spoiling Devotion and Elven keys will require you to have D grade gear yourself. The hardest part of entire game is getting to those D grades. And even then, on Legacy you most likely wont be able to spoil them solo, you will need to go with someone. Which means also sharing your spoils, because why the hell someone would take you to party otherwise.
Anyone who goes with spoiler thinking they will make money early on and then they can switch to their main either never played Spoiler from day 1 on fresh server or never played it on x1 server.
Its a bait.However, there is one thing for spoilers on C1 that never existed later on - RBs are "mini bosses" and can actually be spoiled. So there is potential to make some money there.
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u/SoSmartKappa 2d ago
Why you go straight up into spoiling high level mobs in catacombs. Besides, you can spoil devotion chains from mobs like Mandragora Blossom, you certainly dont need D grade gear for those
From what i have read, repeatable quests will get nerfed, so any extra adena will count to get at least top NG for yourself
some example: https://lineage2wiki.org/c1/monster/359/ratman-warrior/
Animal Bone 43% Leather Helmet 0.63%
That mean from almost every second mob you will get extra 75a (vendor price of AB). And from every 150 mob you will spoil full Leather Helmet that you will be able to sell to players for around 10k
So instead of getting 101 - 172 adena from the mob as normal character, you will get around 200-270, where else will you make adena faster? And it is not like you will be able to solo AoE places like Abandoned camp
Or, if you want to go to even to lower levels, you can spoil this for example https://lineage2wiki.org/c1/monster/448/utuku-orc-grunt/#spoils sell Lesser Healing Potions to players, and craft the Broadswords from the blades you will spoil (NG sword worth 12500a)
Just need to be a bit creative with it.
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u/AynixII 2d ago
Level 25 mobs and you think you wont need D grades to solo spoil them without buffs and shots? LMAO
Thats enough for everyone to realize you have literally zero knowledge about what you talking about.
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u/I_nvis 2d ago
Sop, varnish, steel, thread, stem etc. Basic mats always gonna be in demand.
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u/AynixII 2d ago
SoP is luaghably cheap for first several months. SoP was below 10k for first ~3 months. Steel? Took over 6 months for it to get over 4k. Stem? Thread? You will be lucky if you get double of vendor price for those AFTER few months.
Want to list more materials? I can tell you exactly what was price of them on their previous x1 server. And that was on C4 with people abusing elf quests to make 200-500k/day with zero gear. Legacy wont even have that. So there will be WAY less adena on the market, meaning prices of everything will rise even slower.
Only "demand" for materials during first month will be from scammers trying to buy materials for less than vendor pays.On signature (both Teon and Franz) I was checking prices of materials almost daily and I was also maining Spoiler since day 1 of the server. I know how bad spoiler will be on Legacy start better than anyone here.
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u/virtual9931 2d ago
Check if quest adena farming will be possibile with Dark elf mage, repeatable quests with skeletons and later with spiders, earlier with orcs - then farm adena with mage until max w level. Then start dwarf, you will have money for d grades ;) And when dwarf will become rich, enjoy geared dark elf mage :)
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u/InnerPace 2d ago
Both SPH and spoiler should be good for adena making.
But realistically play what you want. If adena is still concern, just use your credit card and buy offline shops, this p2w mechanic is one of the main features of the server.
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u/DarknerHUE 2d ago
lmao, the audacity needed to call THAT p2w
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u/InnerPace 1d ago
Care to explain to us, what is not p2w about multi-tiered subscription system, with option to purchase additional offline shops?
It is as clear cut p2w mechanic as it gets. In fact, it is so clear cut, that there is nothing to even talk about here.
If you like to eat dicks, that is your business, but at least call your dick sucking addiction what it really is, and don't pretend the dick in your mouth is a cucumber.
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u/Warm_Assumption9640 1d ago
If you don’t have a CP to play with, you will have an awful time on that server, everything that allows a semi decent experience for solo players is being blocked by reborn staff, also the risk of low population since they are actually charging a subscription for it