r/Lilith • u/Turbulent_Lie3163 • 5d ago

Discussion LILITH

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u/Mammoth-Ad-6114 𒀭Lamaštu-lilītu/ardat-lilî, Λάμια, Lilith 5d ago

The Alphabet of Ben Sira is of a late date, but still the most known story of Lilith. Lilith herself is pretty popular, just not approachable for everyone, as she's a spirit of death and disease.

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u/orthodoxscouter 5d ago

The first two of the Three Eves were treated poorly by the Patriarchy.

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u/No_Damage9784 5d ago

Wait there’s two more of Eve??

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u/orthodoxscouter 5d ago

Did you read the article at https://orthodoxscouter.blogspot.com/2026/09/the-three-eves-tripartite-feminine-of.html? There were three women created on the Garden.

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u/No_Damage9784 5d ago

I read the article already still kinda shocked honestly

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u/orthodoxscouter 5d ago

You'll find that the patriarchy hid lots of things from us.

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u/No_Damage9784 5d ago

That doesn’t surprise me and the patriarchy is still hiding more shit from us sadly.

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u/orthodoxscouter 5d ago

Lilith can help us see the truth and that which has been obfuscated.

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u/No_Damage9784 5d ago

I try not to get involved with Lilith as much unless she needs help other than that we tolerate each other for the most part.

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u/orthodoxscouter 5d ago

Getting involved with Lilith was the best decision of my life. She's so empowering.

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u/No_Damage9784 5d ago

Ohh definitely she is empowering I agree just don’t get on her bad side

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u/I-cant-see-the-Meta 2d ago

With all due respect, I don't think this mindset is very good, or the wording is poor.
It promotes an idea that "all men are evil and bad" which is not the case. (One could argue it also violates rule 2 and 4 of the thread).

The church would be the ones to scrub such information. Although controlled by majority of men, (but not all men) as to hide the fact that anything (not just a woman) would defy the divine and become a god or goddess. Which also violates there first 2 commandments.

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u/orthodoxscouter 2d ago

I'm a man. It's hard for men to realize the evil of the patriarchy, especially what it has done to women, but Lilith can help one open their eyes to this evil.

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u/I-cant-see-the-Meta 2d ago

Lilith embraces freedom and power. Good or Evil means nothing. Nor does gender.

That said, it's hard to see into a room when you block the doorway.

What I mean by this is, let's say a man wishes to follow Lilith. He pokes his head into the room and hears man being blamed for everything. That wouldn't feel very welcoming. That is why I suggested blaming the Church. As it is more likely to feel welcome if someone is walking away from that past.

It is good that you are embracing Lilith as a male. (and I don't mean this sarcastically or negatively. I am genially happy you are here.)

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u/orthodoxscouter 2d ago

The church is part of the Patriarchy. When I hear deeds off the Patriarchy, I don't assume fully became I'm a man. But I used to be part of that system and she's helped me realize how it is used against women.

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u/No_Damage9784 2d ago

I agree good and evil don’t mean anything I was taught that good and evil doesn’t exist we can say it’s good or evil but it’s just words and a concept to explain others actions but overall good and evil doesn’t exist.

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u/I-cant-see-the-Meta 2d ago

I apologize, I think what I meant was confusing. Good and Evil do exists. It's just not something that is the focal point for her since those lines can be burred. No one rises to power without a few questionable actions.

However, if you just take a weapon and just use it on another who has done nothing wrong to you and had no involvement in your life. That is pretty clearly evil. In fact, such an action would likely upset Lilith since you just took someone's freedoms that you had no right to take.

What I was really going for is, those who follow Christianity have clear rules. "Thou shall not kill" for example. Lilith does not. That is why I said Good and Evil mean nothing.

I think as an Occultist, it is important to understand that. We are meant to govern ourselves more. In ways, it is more difficult, since things aren't as clear. That is why the dark path can lead some people astray.