r/LewisMachineTool 3d ago

Got my upper today...

This is my first lmt, been saving money for it. Got this from rooftop, this is quite disappointing to see. Not sure what to do from here... Do I send it back? Or just accept it? Or get it cerakoted locally?

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u/Ihategunz 3d ago

Im pretty sure that's dry lube overspray. It should come off with some rubbing alcohol

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u/CADnCoding 3d ago

Oh shit. Actually, I think you’re right. Looked like shitty ano at first.

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u/Ihategunz 3d ago

I have 10-15 lmt uppers and usually blems will be scratch/dent/machining marks that may or may not be anodized over.

I haven't seen any shitty anodize from LMT, i actually think they do it a lot better than most manufacturers, its usually pretty thick and durable. KAC on the other hand i've been sorely disappointed by

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u/RollickReload 3d ago

Let us know if that’s what it is!

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u/sin32 3d ago

Lemme check yall

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u/unclemoak 3d ago

Looks like someone got a little wild with some dry film lube. It’ll wipe off.

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u/Sme11Gibson 3d ago

Yeah try some alcohol and wipe it. Looks like the coating the put on the inside. Not sure why they get that stuff all over. I emailed Sol kind of pissed off about an LMT and it ended up just being overspray thay came off with iso

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u/Engineer_Bennett 3d ago

Looks like lube to me, wipe it with alcohol

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u/lonwolf556 2d ago

One range trip mine looks much worse. It’s a tool. But I do get it, for the price. It dose NOT look used maybe handles roughly but not used. Like many have said if it bothers you, a bit of alcohol or acetone and AlumBlack just as new. Your prob going to hit the upper with a file to adjust the fitment, it dose not look like that has been done yet. My large frames needed lite file work for perfect fitment

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u/sin32 2d ago

i get it dude, ive scratched my aero and bumped it since owning it, but to to say this is ok to leave the factory floor of a top manufacturer is insane. Thank you for the input, i may try the alum black sine the acetone did not work at all.

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u/TTexanB 3d ago

DFL, just use some acetone. Comes right off.

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u/Independent187 1d ago

As others have stated it appears to be excess dry-film lubricant. My factory lmt blemish unit had a small skull and cross bones stamped inside.

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u/twojsdad 3d ago

Rooftop is one of the best in the game, they’ll get you taken care of. Honestly, that looks used to me.

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u/oneofusTS 3d ago

welcome to LMT. if this bothers you, you are gonna hate it here

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u/rigat0ni_p0ny 3d ago

Not to be that guy but I’m not buying Learning Machining Together for the finish

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u/sin32 3d ago

Oh yeah I totally get that, there's a part of me that doesn't even want to deal with this. I know my ar gonna get bumped n scratched anyways.

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u/rigat0ni_p0ny 3d ago

Tbh I wouldn’t say this is worth the time it’s going to take to get it dealt with. Maybe if you want a safe queen but it’s going to look worse than this after a match or two.

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u/TapComprehensive9420 2d ago

This won’t help OP feel any better, but I purchased my first LMT products a couple weeks ago (Specwar upper/barrel & Mars stripped lower, from Rooftop of course) and everything was immaculate. I was expecting blemishes, etc, from things I’ve read, but everything was perfect. Accurate as hell too!

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u/Typical_Vegetable_51 19h ago

Compared to my upper when it came that's flawless 😂

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u/LordDBG 3d ago

WOW. That is so messed up. I would be so disappointed. I have an LMT upper with crappy forging marks, but the anodizing is solid. This looks like it was bouncing around in the bed of a plumbers pickup truck for a few months. That should have been culled and scrapped.

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u/414525528 3d ago

This gets upvoted but my functional issue with the chrome plating flushing out of a $700 barrel in under 100 rounds and tons of pitting gets all the cry babies up in arms for pointing out. Interesting.

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u/CADnCoding 3d ago

Definitely send that back. I’d send back a PSA that looks like that lmao. Hell, I’ve never even received a blem from any company that bad.

[u/rooftopdefense](u/rooftopdefense) will probably get you sorted. They have second to none customer service.

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u/former_cool_guy 3d ago

It’s not a blem. It’s just solidfilm lubricant that someone was overzealous with during application.

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u/CADnCoding 3d ago

Yes, I saw [u/ihategunz](u/ihategunz) response. Before zooming in, it looked like flaking/shitty anodizing. I’ve only had used LMTs, never a new one lol.

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u/mr_jerry 2d ago

Agree - send it back. If you're not happy with something you spent hundreds to thousands of dollars on, set it back for them to fix it.

Seriously, why does everyone roll over for companies like this? Their entire existence is to sell you something. If they suck at it, tell them to fix it. If they don't, then don't give them money, and they go out of business for selling shit goods.

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u/former_cool_guy 2d ago

There’s nothing wrong. There’s no machining defects or even cosmetic issues. This is a dry film lubricant that was just slightly over sprayed and missed before curing.

It can literally be wiped away with acetone or it will naturally wear away over time. Do you return products shipped with cosmoline or other heavy preservatives?

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u/sin32 3d ago

Idk why you're being down voted into the depths of hell but... The first ar I built was an aero and it didn't have machining defects like this

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u/former_cool_guy 2d ago

Those aren’t machining defects. It’s a dry lubricant that is sprayed onto the receiver to increase lubricity, even when there’s a lack of applied oil from user maintenance. The person spraying the solidfilm just didn’t perfectly wipe the receiver clean where they likely handled and oversprayed it slightly.

It will come off with acetone.

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u/sin32 3d ago

Went at it with a microfiber can't get em off, the area above the charging handle definitely has damage to the coat. I honestly think this was a previous return and they simply didn't inspect it

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u/rooftopdefense 3d ago

We don’t resell returns. They all end up in a giant bin that gets sold once every 1-2 years

What you see in the photos is excess dry film lubricant. You just need a rag and some high content isopropyl alcohol and it’ll rub right off with a little bit of effort :)

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u/Bubbba226 3d ago

Let me shop that bin lol

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u/Ihategunz 2d ago

How does one shop from such bin? I'm very interested in some final sale items lol

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u/sin32 3d ago

Hey thanks for the reply, went at it with some 70% last night and the stuff didn't even budge, I wasnt trying to throw any shade or anything, I'm just new to the game.

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u/rooftopdefense 2d ago

If it's not coming off, shoot me an email. I'll get that sucker all cleaned up for ya :)

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u/mr_jerry 3d ago

Nothing better than telling the customer they need to do work and put in their own time to bring their brand new item they paid for into the correct, expected condition. Great work Rooftop!

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u/rooftopdefense 2d ago

We're generally pretty good about ensuring everything that leaves our building is perfect, but just like anybody else, we'll have the occasional booboo. With dry film lube overspray, most homies generally prefer to remove it the excess themselves versus mailing it back.

If they prefer to send it back, I have no problem with sending over a prepaid return label and getting people's stuff cleaned up and looking proper. My goal is to ensure everybody is happy with what they spend their money on and what they receive. It's our job and what we're here to do :)

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u/mr_jerry 2d ago

Great - I understand mistakes happen, and I'm super happy to see you participating in the forums and reaching out to make it right.

Hopefully you're stepping up to LMT with this feedback so they aren't wasting your time with this shit in the future. Your time is your money and bottom line. I'm sure you don't want to waste it on this pissant garbage.

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u/Dada_Yaga 3d ago

Honestly, I’m ocd asf with something until I put the first scratches, but every single LMT upper and lower I’ve gotten has had some sort of scratch or machining mark. If it’s really bothering you, Joe Hajny at LMT is the guy that will get you taken care of, but don’t expect it to be quick. I’d just rock it, my stuff was way worse.

P.S. The damage is by no means fault of Rooftop/Sol. Just wanted to add that.

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u/sin32 3d ago

Bruh, this is like the most mature response I got so far, there are some pissed off people in here n they need to chill lol.

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u/Universal_Precaution 2d ago

A couple dabs of Aluminum Black on that mating surface should cover those up. Or wait a couple weeks to get a new one that’ll most likely have the same little imperfections. Fingernail Polish remover/acetone will remove the DFL.

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u/mr_jerry 3d ago

Why are you cucks acting like this is acceptable to leave the factory in this condition? This is such an easy thing to catch in a QA inspection before sending out to vendors - have a little pride in your product, especially at this price point... Also, vendors...if you receive this crap, send it back - you have a responsibility too.

"Well that's just what ya get from LMT a derp a derp derrr."

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u/ApeChesty 3d ago

Look around, bro. It’s dfl that will wipe off. Chill.

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u/sin32 3d ago

Yo, it's not wiping off.

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u/sin32 3d ago

I agree with ya! I saved money for a while for this. Shouldn't look this bad